"These past few days have been an education for me. Why are we
afraid to make our own decisions about the future of our union. Every
motion, every recommendation, baring none, has been approved with very
little debate, and some with no debate at all.
Brothers and sisters, when you vote in favor of calling for a question and leave delegates standing at the mic waiting to debate the matter on the floor, you tread on those delegates' right to speak. You deprive yourselves of hearing another point of view and the convention of the tools with which to make a sound decision. I know this is wrong, and you know this is wrong. "
DELEGATE MIKE ZUPAN (Local 250):
Brothers and sisters, when you vote in favor of calling for a question and leave delegates standing at the mic waiting to debate the matter on the floor, you tread on those delegates' right to speak. You deprive yourselves of hearing another point of view and the convention of the tools with which to make a sound decision. I know this is wrong, and you know this is wrong. "
DELEGATE MIKE ZUPAN (Local 250):
HOW ABOUT DOUGY BANES WHEN HE DOES NOT LIKE WHAT IS BEING SAID AT A CONVENTION "
IS THIS THE KIND OF BS YOU CAN EXPECT AT THIS CONVENTION???
CHAIR BANES: I apologize. We have a seconder. . All right MIC 1.
IS THIS THE KIND OF BS YOU CAN EXPECT AT THIS CONVENTION???
CHAIR BANES: I apologize. We have a seconder. . All right MIC 1.
BROTHER BERT TYCER: A walkout by thousands of working Carpenters off a project labor agreement job was not because of one demented 130 pound carpenter as was alleged yesterday. Those thousands of working carpenters walked off the job because of a lousy agreement that they were not allowed to vote on.
CHAIR BANES: I want you to shut MIC 1 off.(
!!!!!!!!!!WHY DO YOU REFUSE !!!!!!! Resolved: It shall be a violation of the rules to call for the question to cut off debate before any debate has occurred.
Resolved: It shall be a violation of the rules for any delegate to act as a"floor whip" to seize control of the convention or to prevent, discourage, intimidate, or threaten any delegates from reaching the microphones to freely express their opinions on debatable issues.
WILL YOU ATTEND THIS CONVENTION TO TRADE $2 STUPID AND CHILDISH PINS AND WEAR EMBARRASSING COLOR CODED TEE SHIRTS OR WILL YOU ATTEND TO DO WHAT THE MEMBERS "THINK" YOU ARE GOING FOR .TO ATTEND TO THE BUSINESS OF THE UNITED BROTHERHOOD.
WILL YOU DO AND SAY NOTHING MORE THAN YOU ARE TOLD TO DO AND SAY OR WILL YOU TAKE A STAND AND BE DELEGATES TO THE CONVENTION??
YOU ARE A JOKE. AS LEAST THAT IS WHAT THE UBC AND YOUR COUNCIL LEADERS BELIEVE..
(1)YOU WERE NOT ELECTED BY THE RANK AND FILE TO ATTEND THIS CONVENTION. (
2)YOU WERE HAND PICKED BY YOUR COUNCIL REPS BECAUSE THEY TOLD THE UBC YOU WERE THE DUMBEST OF THE LOT.
(3)YOU WERE HAND PICKED BY YOUR COUNCIL REPS BECAUSE THEY TOLD THE UBC YOU WOULD DO EXACTLY AS YOU WERE TOLD .
(4)YOU WERE HAND PICKED BY YOUR COUNCIL REPS BECAUSE THEY TOLD THE UBC YOU HAD NO IDEA WHAT AN LM2,550 OR 990 EVEN WERE LET ALONE EVER HAVE READ ONE OF THEM.
(5)YOU WERE HAND PICKED BY YOUR COUNCIL REPS BECAUSE THEY TOLD THE UBC YOU WOULD NOT ASK QUESTIONS.YOU WOULD NOT QUESTION ANYTHING PUT BEFORE YOU.
(6)YOU WERE HAND PICKED BY YOUR COUNCIL REPS BECAUSE THEY TOLD THE UBC YOU WOULD NOT CHALLENGE THE POLICY'S OF DOUGLAS MCCARRON AND HIS RAT PACK.
(7)YOU WERE HAND PICKED BY YOUR COUNCIL REPS BECAUSE THEY TOLD THE UBC THAT WHEN IT CAME TIME TO VOTE YOU WOULD LOOK AT YOUR LOCAL LEADERS WHO HIMSELF IS AN IGNORANT MORON, SUCH AS MIKE SHANAHAN OF LOCAL 291 IN ALBANY NY,AND VOTE AS HE OR SHE TOLD YOU TO. CAN YOU IMAGINE GOING HOME AFTER THE CONVENTION AND REALIZING YOU CAST YOUR VOTE BASED ON THE WORD OF A MORON SUCH AS MIKE SAHANHAN OR A COMPLETE JERK OFF SUCH AS CHRISTOPHER DUGAN
SOME YEARS FROM NOW HOW WILL YOU ANSWER TO YOUR WIFE OR CHILDREN WHEN THEY ASK DADDY WHY HE AND HIS FELLOW DELEGATES WERE ALL WEARING COLOR CODED TEES SHIRTS LIKE LEMMINGS AND MORONS. OR DADDY WHY WERE THE TABLES COVERED WITH SO MANY BUDWEISER CANS.OR DADDY WHY CANT I GO TO THE DENTIST BECAUSE THE UBC HAS TAKEN AWAY OUR MEDICAL COVERAGE AND DADDY WHY DID THEY TAKE YOUR PENSION AND UNCLE JIMS AND UNCLE MARKS AND YOUR FRIENDS PENSION. AND WHY IS JOHNNYS DAD ON WELFARE. DADDY IS IT TRUE IT IS IS BECAUSE YOU WERE TRADING PINS, WEARING THOSE STUPID TEE SHIRTS AND WERE TO DRUNK TO BE A DELEGATE.
TELL US THE STORY ABOUT THE THE FEW DELEGATES WHO MADE IT TO THE CONVENTION IN SPITE OF DOUG MCCARRON ALLOWING DELEGATES ELECTIONS TO BE RUN A SECOND TIME WHEN THE HAND PICKED MORONS LOST THE ELECTION THE FIRST TIME. IS THIS TRUE. DID THIS HAPPEN??TELL US THE STORY HOW AND THEN AFTER ILLEGALLY RERUNNING THE ELECTIONS AGAIN THESE MORONS STILL LOST. HOW ARE THESE LOSERS STILL ATTENDING THE CONVENTION AS GUESTS OF THE LOCALS.
AND DADDY WHAT ABOUT THE FEW DELEGATES WHO DID TRY AND DO THEIR JOB AND WORK TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES AFFECTING UBC MEMBERS SUCH AS THE ATTACK BY DOUG MCCARRON AND OTHER UNION LEADERS, LIKE THE OTHER NCCMP RATS (BESIDES DOUG MCCARRON) SHAWN MCGREAVY,TERRY OSULLIVAN AND JIMMY HOFFA JR, ON ALL RETIREES PENSION CHECKS . WHAT ABOUT THE FEW DELEGATES WHO DID TRY AND DO THEIR JOB AND WORK TO ADDRESS ISSUES AFFECTING UBC MEMBERS SUCH AS THE DIVERSION OF BILLIONS MORE FROM MEMBERS PENSION FUNDS INTO MORE SCAMS SUCH AS THE ULLICO INFRASTRUCTURE FUND. THE ULLICO FUND WHOSE PARTNER IS THE BANK OF CHINA AND OTHER CHINESE SLAVE LABOR FRIENDLY COMPANY'S. WHAT ABOUT THE FEW DELEGATES WHO DID TRY AND DO THEIR JOB AND WORK TO ADDRESS ISSUES AFFECTING UBC MEMBERS SUCH AS THE DIVERSION OF BILLIONS OF FUND MONIES INTO A LOSER BS COMPANY CALLED ULLICO THAT LOST ITS ENTIRE ULLICO CASUALTY DIVISION TO STATE REGULATING AGENCIES BECAUSE IT SUCKED SO BAD IT COULD NOT EVEN BE REPAIRED.
IS IT TRUE DADDY. DID YOU AND OTHER HAND PICKED DELEGATES VIOLATE THE UBC CONSTITUTION,THE CONVENTION RULES AND ROBERTS RULES BY SHOUTING DOWN, INTIMIDATING AND HARASSING DELEGATES WHO WERE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR AND HAD THE FLOOR. YOU WOULDN'T DO THIS WOULD YOU DADDY . HOW ABOUT DOUGY BANES WHEN HE DOES NOT LIKE WHAT IS BEING SAID AT A CONVENTION SHUTTING OFF MICS
AND DADDY WHAT ABOUT THE FEW DELEGATES WHO DID TRY AND DO THEIR JOB AND WORK TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES AFFECTING UBC MEMBERS SUCH AS THE ATTACK BY DOUG MCCARRON AND OTHER UNION LEADERS, LIKE THE OTHER NCCMP RATS (BESIDES DOUG MCCARRON) SHAWN MCGREAVY,TERRY OSULLIVAN AND JIMMY HOFFA JR, ON ALL RETIREES PENSION CHECKS . WHAT ABOUT THE FEW DELEGATES WHO DID TRY AND DO THEIR JOB AND WORK TO ADDRESS ISSUES AFFECTING UBC MEMBERS SUCH AS THE DIVERSION OF BILLIONS MORE FROM MEMBERS PENSION FUNDS INTO MORE SCAMS SUCH AS THE ULLICO INFRASTRUCTURE FUND. THE ULLICO FUND WHOSE PARTNER IS THE BANK OF CHINA AND OTHER CHINESE SLAVE LABOR FRIENDLY COMPANY'S. WHAT ABOUT THE FEW DELEGATES WHO DID TRY AND DO THEIR JOB AND WORK TO ADDRESS ISSUES AFFECTING UBC MEMBERS SUCH AS THE DIVERSION OF BILLIONS OF FUND MONIES INTO A LOSER BS COMPANY CALLED ULLICO THAT LOST ITS ENTIRE ULLICO CASUALTY DIVISION TO STATE REGULATING AGENCIES BECAUSE IT SUCKED SO BAD IT COULD NOT EVEN BE REPAIRED.
IS IT TRUE DADDY. DID YOU AND OTHER HAND PICKED DELEGATES VIOLATE THE UBC CONSTITUTION,THE CONVENTION RULES AND ROBERTS RULES BY SHOUTING DOWN, INTIMIDATING AND HARASSING DELEGATES WHO WERE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR AND HAD THE FLOOR. YOU WOULDN'T DO THIS WOULD YOU DADDY . HOW ABOUT DOUGY BANES WHEN HE DOES NOT LIKE WHAT IS BEING SAID AT A CONVENTION SHUTTING OFF MICS
"free speech resolution" for the upcoming general convention? This
will be the third time it has been sent to the international convention.
It calls for one hour of good of the order per convention day, no floor
whips dominating access to floor microphones and no motions to cut off
debate prior to any debate. Implementing this resolution at the
convention will enable free exchange of delegate ideas during the actual
convention. The resolution follows here. With support from lots of locals around the country...it can be adopted.
Resolution in Support of Free Speech at UBC General Convention
Whereas: Once every five years the United Brotherhood of Carpenters holds its General Convention and makes decisions of important historical significance to all workers, and
Whereas: The Brotherhood gathers members from all over the United States and Canada who are active in working for the Greater good of not only Union Carpenters but of all workers, and
Whereas: The greater good of all working people is manifest in the ability of them being able to communicate to each other their ideas, dreams, and visions, and
Whereas : Our forefathers from the founding of this Great Nation, the United States of America to the founding of this Great Union, the United Brotherhood of Carpenters fought for the right of all workers and Union members to speak about their ideas, dreams, and visions without threat of prison, violence or death, and
Whereas: The US Constitutional Bill of Rights under the First Amendment guarantees all citizens the freedom of speech, be it therefore
Resolved: It shall be a violation of the rules to call for the question to cut off debate before any debate has occurred.
Resolved: It shall be a violation of the rules for any delegate to act as a"floor whip" to seize control of the convention or to prevent, discourage, intimidate, or threaten any delegates from reaching the microphones to freely express their opinions on debatable issues.
Resolved: One hour per convention day shall be reserved for "good of the order" so many delegates will potentially be able to share their views with the entire delegation. Ground rules for "good of the order" shall be 1) confine your remarks to subjects which are of importance to the working class, especially Carpenters. 2) prepare your statement for presentation in under three minutes. 3) no delegate is allowed to speak more than once unless there are no other delegates wishing to speak.
Whereas: Once every five years the United Brotherhood of Carpenters holds its General Convention and makes decisions of important historical significance to all workers, and
Whereas: The Brotherhood gathers members from all over the United States and Canada who are active in working for the Greater good of not only Union Carpenters but of all workers, and
Whereas: The greater good of all working people is manifest in the ability of them being able to communicate to each other their ideas, dreams, and visions, and
Whereas : Our forefathers from the founding of this Great Nation, the United States of America to the founding of this Great Union, the United Brotherhood of Carpenters fought for the right of all workers and Union members to speak about their ideas, dreams, and visions without threat of prison, violence or death, and
Whereas: The US Constitutional Bill of Rights under the First Amendment guarantees all citizens the freedom of speech, be it therefore
Resolved: It shall be a violation of the rules to call for the question to cut off debate before any debate has occurred.
Resolved: It shall be a violation of the rules for any delegate to act as a"floor whip" to seize control of the convention or to prevent, discourage, intimidate, or threaten any delegates from reaching the microphones to freely express their opinions on debatable issues.
Resolved: One hour per convention day shall be reserved for "good of the order" so many delegates will potentially be able to share their views with the entire delegation. Ground rules for "good of the order" shall be 1) confine your remarks to subjects which are of importance to the working class, especially Carpenters. 2) prepare your statement for presentation in under three minutes. 3) no delegate is allowed to speak more than once unless there are no other delegates wishing to speak.
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THE MIKE MCCARRON APPEAL TO THE CONVENTION
THE MIKE MCCARRON APPEAL TO THE CONVENTION
DELEGATE CREDENTIALS
Section 17(N)
The General President shall appoint a Committee on Credentials,
consisting of not less than five members. The Committee shall
meet at the call of the chair. In the event the credentials of a delegate
are protested, the Committee on Credentials shall hear the protest
and submit its findings to the Convention.
HOW MANY PENSIONS ARE THERE AND WHO IS COLLECTING ...SECTION 31D
The General President shall appoint a Committee on Credentials,
consisting of not less than five members. The Committee shall
meet at the call of the chair. In the event the credentials of a delegate
are protested, the Committee on Credentials shall hear the protest
and submit its findings to the Convention.
HOW MANY PENSIONS ARE THERE AND WHO IS COLLECTING ...SECTION 31D