THIS SITE WAS CREATED TO DISCUSS AND EXPOSE THE ONGOING PERSECUTION OF UBC UNION MEMBER MIKE MCCARRON. IT WAS CREATED TO DETAIL HIS BATTLE TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE TYRANNICAL PRACTICES OF THE PRESENT LEADERSHIP OF THE UNITED BROTHERHOOD OF CARPENTERS.
THIS SITE ALSO HAS ALWAYS ENDEAVORED TO EXPOSE THE ONGOING CORRUPTION IN THE UBC AND THE FRAUDULENT ACTS OF THE UBC LEADERSHIP UNDER DOUGLAS MCCARRON
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Sunday, September 27, 2020
MCCARRON, REACHED BY PHONE ON TUESDAY, DECLINED FURTHER COMMENT
The new subpoenas suggest prosecutors are not finished looking into
United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America and may be
widening their inquiry to other organizations with ties to the union.
DO NOT WORRY DOUGY OTHERS ARE COMMENTING LOUD AND CLEAR
WE HEAR SOME OF DIRTY DOUGS STOOGES ARE TAKING SINGING LESSONS
MANY WERE SPOTTED IN A LINE AT MRS. O'MALLEYS "LEARN TO SING LIKE A CANARY" MUSIC SCHOOL AND LEGAL SOCIETY
"Ballantyne also said two other union officials —
Frank Spencer, the second general vice president of the union, and
Michael Capelli, the Eastern District vice president — had engaged in
wrongdoing."
Carpenters union hit with new grand jury subpoenas
Hey. Doug. I know it’s soon. But since you going to get rid of me anyway and let Clancy be the. EST. Can you throw a good word for me with the feds to take this thing over when you go to jail. Because that’s how you got in when did Lucas end went down. Well no fat ass Sproule your going with me buddy !!!!!!
There are 30 years of activities to review under an expanded investigation. Doug and Co. have been exploiting their positions for their personal gain at the expense of working members since his first election!!!
Meanwhile on a verrrry related note. As i stated earlier in another post. A fed prosecutor is now expanding the tax fraud investigation of george norcross in the camden area. It is all related. Think xpress scripts. Oh yeah. You didnt vote on that either. Georgie did. Gov Murphy is going after him as i said. Our fearless idiots got in bed with norcross. Time to pay the piper.
With the potential for real change in our future I will not accept my fate being managed by half witts who couldn’t keep a job at Home Depot!!! No more!! I will not settle for stupid!!! I will not settle for the payment of representation that I pay for that i didn’t chose via a secrete ballot Vote!!!! This message should be headed by any former or current Representative who thinks they are going to replace McCarron with more of the same!!! Don’t bother because YOU will LOSE!!!!
how ironic is it doug did want tax fraud weeded out well your getting your wish people who live in glass houses should not throw rocks bye bye doug your getting your wish
No. None of them will allowed to " survive" what they have WILLINGLY and KNOWINGLY engaged in. If more members would realize that WE actually have the power to create that change. It requires one act of unity. Something of a foreign concept to the union carpenter. Ironically.
Feds. You listening? 2 more names to add to your subpeona list.
Tricia Mueller Michelle McCormick.
Founders of the money laundering outfit Known as GroundWork Strategies. No pay off or buy out or " donation" by the UBC gets done without these 2 money laundresses. Founded in 2016. Hmmmmm. Im sure Zoe Luna is proud of mama trish. Hopefully the ubc provides a ride to visit mama in jail. Check out their " holdings" Youllll be like omg. Could they tryyyyy and hide it better. Bottom line. They are stealing member carpenters blind
McCarron has an election in nine months, he is 70 years old from a bygone era he reminds me of the bumbling Joe Biden presidential candidate,all McCarron needs is those aviator glasses that Biden wears and you couldn't tell them apart. Frank Spencer and Michael Capelli more than likely will be indicted before years end, and McCarron is next. Enjoy the show good members
Haaa!!! McCarron does remind me of Biden, two useless idiots!! Hey Doug have you been cross examined recently? It doesn’t sound fun. Some say it’s a prelude to ones demise fore the guilty already know the end is near. Any who happy Friday!!!
What about complicity? Those who stood by, even participated, in acts of crime for the benefit of Doug McCarron. The Carpenters membership has wasted millions of dollars on these co-conspirators . . . and Federal agencies needs to hold everyone one of them accountable. No one should escape, or even try to deny their involvement in these unbelievable acts, which stole precious dues money from the carpenter membership . . . facilitating the criminal image of unions, and decimated the meaning of brotherhood! All of us know most of these limp-dick-lackeys were only thinking about their own self-serving needs, but doing nothing . . . not standing up to Doug McCarron was wrong, and is wrong! John DeCarlo Dan Shanley Frank Spencer Mike Capelli Doug Banes Andris Silins Mike Draper (the fat one) Randy Sowell Phil Newkirk Jim Gleason Randy Thornhill Dan Langford The above is a very small sample of the scum which has participated with or defended McCarron in his deceitful deeds. There are hundreds of other shyte-birds within the Carpenters Union who need to be added to this list and held accountable . . . Anyone listening? The list needs to grow! Hopefully the “Feds” are reading!
They are reading. Lets briefly talk about a huge rip off. Been going on for years. Health Insurance. No Carpenter should ever lose benefits while actively still working. We are self funded. Not for profit. Tax exempt. There should never ever be a " fund surplus" Who does a fund surplus serve? It serves the union ldrship. Not the rank and file. If im denied health benefits bc i only had 599 hours in 6 months: I should get that 599 hours refunded to me to buy my own coverage. When i have 960 hours in the same 6 month period... Everything over 600 should go to an account with my name and number ... Like a reserve. Not back to the " fund" Its the biggest theft and scam going. Ex. If i work 2000 hours a year then why isnt the 800 hours i generated put into a fund account with my name and ubc number. For a year where i might need it. I dare you to alll look at your work hours and how many overage hours you allll have contributed. Then read the letter you " missed " hc by 4 hours. There should never ever be a " surplus" and retirees should not be paying anything for hc that was promised to them. There is actually a better system but it benefits YOU the worker and not the " fund" .. Cant have that!!!
If the feds are indeed reading and listening. I implore you to talk to your friends over in pa. Do NOT LET JOHN DOUGHERTY make a plea!!!!! Take it to fullllll trial with full disclosure. If you do.... You will have GEORGE NORCROSS III ON A CROSS. Handed to you by way of discovery. You will also expose CORRUPT SUPREME COURT JUSTICE OF PA KEVIN DOUGHERTY!!! alllll this via the co owner and founder of GROUND WORK STRATEGIES. Tricia Mueller and her sidekick Michelle McCormack ARE the link between dougherty, norcross, and the carpenters corruption. Its allll there. Plain as the nose on your face. Marita Crawford ( pol activities and pac director of local 98 electricians) Tricia Mueller/ Michelle McCormick. Go there!!! Request the documents of groundworks and their " holdings" Look carefully at their " income sources" .... Im not sure what else i can do but take you by the hand and show you. Its allll public record. The names and the players and events you allll can look at. Start asking the " right" questions of the right players. This ... If pursued.. Will destroy 80% of the politicians in new jersey and se pa. Clean it out!!!!
feds swarming the philly area a lot of questions coming in on mike hand and sproles could they be looking into the local level its crazy something big is coming grab the popcorn and ballons were gonna have a parade headed to the slamer
The feds have been here for over 4 years. Theyve been watching, listening , and talking with rank and file. Sproules knows 1 of the reasons why... So does mike hand. Ask your delegates that you didnt vote for in over 7 years. Merger number 2. An action to cover criminal activities of merger number 1. The " mccarron" culture of " 70%"( which is pure unicorns and fairy dust) Actuallly means ...70% of YOU are worker bees that feed the illicit 30% appointed, hand picked, " leadership" while having absolutely no voice or input.
Or does it mean he hopes to win 70% of the law suits against us?
Or does it mean he is okay with getting 70% of 100% of the loans made out to ventures and companies that threaten manhours and employment
Or does it mean the reduction in wages and benefits by 70% to compete.
Doug McCarron is a prime example of what happens when dictators gain control of any organization or government. Their vision is not always the clearest and ideas stagnate because they cut off voice or concern and dissent. Meanwhile their pride leads the narrative and they cant alter their course or actions. Its like making bad decisions that then beget bad outcomes. Instead of regrouping and forming a better plan.. Doug makes another bad decision to support the 1st bad decision and it than becomes a series of failures ... Then laws get ignored because the way out of continuous bad decisions requires honesty, truth, and input from the people affected by each bad decision. When you stop listening and continue the insanity... Eventually it stops. Unfortunately the trail of carnage in your wake rises back up to destroy you. Doug is now in that phase.
speaking of ripoffs do you think anyone is investgating the retire scam the union is pulling so they let retirees work no problem they pay the same union dues as you but all of their healt insurance payments they don't get the union keeps that I beilive it in the area of 12 something an hour but the retirees don't get that money they have the retirees insurance so you wonder why the union likes them working your deductions a little over 100 a week a retirees dections pushing 500 how can the union be entitled to that money who investigates that would it be erba or dol
The whole thing is a sham. The entire carpenter union culture has been corrupted.
Look at this concept for a second.
Kml is spending a fortune on " advisors" and public relations consultants , and many other " image enhancing" programs. To sell the public on an image. Think about this. Millions are going to " sell" the public. News flash. Your image comes from your member body. Why wouldnt you start by trying to " sell" your own members? The fact is... Your own members dont like you, dont trust you, dont support you, and want you in jail... Pretty hard selling point when your own members wont piss on you if you were on fire.
Yet. Every kml " function" that shows volunteer work always features a council rep as if they would even know how to use a tool Mike Hand was a concrete step and fetch. Layla Bibi was the 2nd laziest carpenter ive ever worked with. Its a fucking disgrace. Its just EXACTLY how we are being run now. The rank and file carpenter goes out and does alll the work.... The council rep swoops in for the photo op. Is it because their afraid the press might actuallllly talk to the r/f carpenter. You should be thankful anyone even shows up. ( again that would be a point of interest to see how many were coerced or told they HAD to volunteer with either a promise of mups credit, a job, or a veiled threat theyd lose their already appointed job?) The UBC does have an image problem. Continually worsened by the shit bags in charge. Correct your culture. Get rid of the thieving lying self dealing criminal leadership. Create a Union again where members take pride in being supportive. This is Doug McCarrons legacy. Ubc is in tatters and rags. This is allll of those who followed doug. You are all guilty.
Andddd loook at that!!! Millions spent to promote KML. And now we are Eastern Atlantic States. Pissed away millions to present a " front" to cover the criminal activity by the dissolution of NRCC. Feds. Look at the year mccarron dumped millions in placid investors. A shell company run by him, newkirk, welch Silins. Look at the year philly was raided..... Then ask doug. Real simple. Whered the money come from you " invested " in yourselves? 69 million dollars to themselves. A company that provides zerooooooo work for union carpenters. As a matter of fact.... It cuts manhours. Let me ask him under oath in a grand jury. ( that and 12 other questions) Keep your attorneys there to take notes.
I couldn’t agree more about the Medical benefits!! How is it fair to keep money paid on my behalf but deny me the service because I’m a dollar short? I’m a normal world If I can’t buy it then I leave with my money and no product, but I don’t leave with nothing!! Can we bank hours? No. And your spot on about the surplus!! What’s the point of a surplus of no one is working we will he denied health care coverage regardless of the value of the surplus that we built!!! We should dissolve the whole health care fund and get insurance through a regular provider.
Hey Doug, if you ask someone something twice,and they tell you the truth twice I guess you got to FIRE THEM!!! "You lie to the general president you make a career decision". Doug McCarron judge jury and executioner
Those members who post on this board obviously know why Team McCarron must go, so we’re the choir and we’re preaching to our selves. Those we need to preach to are our members on the job who are less than informed or “just want to work”. These are the members that can select the next UBC President but who will remain on the sidelines if they are not educated about what’s it at stake. What is the most important way to reach these ambivalent members? Money!!! Ask them how much money they will have contributed over the course of the their career? (Avg. Contribution: $10.00 x 40 hrs = $400.00 per week x 45 weeks per year = $18,000 per year x 30 years = $540,000 approx. Total). What they are going to do when they can’t retire as planned? Why don’t they have a say as to how their Union is managed?
The person who controls the pension and the healthcare is the most powerful person in a union. Any union. They can make you dance, sing, juggle, and act the fool.
There is a reason h/w is self funded. It IS THE ONLY VEHICLE IN WHICH THE UNION CAN USE AS LEVERAGE. It used to be pensions but bc of federal intervention and laws there were protections enacted so we allll didnt end up like the roofers. Or the early teamsters. H/w is the last tool. It is a complete sham. Under the premise of collective bargaining, and our union touts this ... They willll never give up the " fund" and shop it out to the best price and return. Unless of course there was a vote. There are no more votes. Is the picture getting clearer. We are being " ruled" by a tyrant. Funny. The ubc constitution used to limit what leadership could do. They served at the liesure of the member body. For over 26 years... Doug McCarron has relied on apathy and intimidation and retaliation to go from " serving" to " ruling " the largest slave body in the country.
As we all know the stakes for change couldn’t be higher; our careers, livelihoods, the welfare of our families, retirement, etc. It’s time to step up in 2020, regardless of the consequences, because the right people can save the UBC, or we’ll see everything we have disappear in less than 10 years. Before us lies the best chance for real change we’ve had since McCarron was elected. I’m not going to let it pass me by and none of you should either!!!
How much money has been collected from MUP fees and where does it go? What’s it used for? What is the money not to be used for? Where is the criteria for the collection AND the use of the MUP money located? Is it the Council Bylaws??
The mups was adopted in to the by laws. Why do you think jerk offs like Ron McLeod and Charles Brock kept kicking questions down the road. Refusing to name who was on the committee. Refusing to allow rank and file voices on said committees ? Heres better questions. Where is the Mup fund listed ANYWHERE on a LM2. A 990? Anywhere?
How much money is in it? What is the fund for? What are the yearly " fines" collected? Who or what has been paid from this fund and why? Is the fund interest bearing? If so where does this intetest go? Are there trustees? Who are the trustees? Who manages this fund? Where are the financial status and reports ( required by law) and why are we even asking these questions? Is the fund tax exempt? Should we inform the IRS and OLMS that something shady is going on? Oh waitttt. We did.
We Are Everywhere. We know all of you. We are uncovering all your activities .... One at a time.
Hmmmm, so the NRCC MUP money was transferred to the KML Council into some account that isn’t listed on the KML’s list of accounts? Someone should ask where this money is located, what’s used for, who manages the money etc. The Council formerly known as the KML has to have a list of all financial accounts and corresponding statements that can be reviewed. I’m sure all this information will be available at the next Council Meeting.
Ok you win please don’t check on how we steal the retirees health Benifits or any of our made up buisnesss. Or how many times hand and Sproule. Go golfing Or the ilegal forced mupp. Program Nothing to se here keep moving fellows !!!!!!!!!!
Ok you win please don’t check on how we steal the retirees health Benifits or any of our made up buisnesss. Or how many times hand and Sproule. Go golfing Or the ilegal forced mupp. Program Nothing to se here keep moving fellows !!!!!!!!!!
Mike hand has his hands all over the discrimatory policy of letteing. Certain retirees work full time while. Stealing their health and welfare dip it’s. It’s all coming. Out Mr hand. If you were worried before it’s getting real now you loser !! Keep peeking out the blinds were out there. The feds are out there. Your days are numbered. !!!
Something is going on with McCarron he searches for words, forgets peoples names, he looks kind of confused ??? He also shuffles around very strangely like there's something wrong with his hips or his back or feet???
HaHaHaHa, available at the next KML Council mtg. What a f*cking joke that is! Billys puppet will only provide the information that they tell him to. He is not a president of the members. Its time we as delegates ask and demand the information that we desire. Maybe we should have a banner ready for the next council mtg demanding answers!
Haaaaa!!! Banner the Delegate meeting?? That would be awesome!! Speaking of Billy’s puppet Council President, hows he doing these days since his accident in Sea Isle this summer??
They are scurrying. They cant hide it. They cant walk away from it. The mups is a " small" issue in the grand scheme of things.
I have consistently laid out the timelines and the events and most of the names. Ill say it again. This is a 3 part problem. It started with regional politics and george norcross s desire and patient vendetta to obtain the phila market.
Every member here and every member you know should go back to the beginning. Google the entry " norcrossing the delaware" almost every answer was in that article. The problem was the press didnt know what follow ups to ask.
I encourage you to re read or read for the 1st time.... Carefully and critically this article. Then flash forward to today and hopefully the lights come on.
Norcross is a symptom of the bigger problem we as members of the UBC have, and that is we can’t determine our own future in any way, if we could, none of us would give him anything, but we don’t have a choice in the matter or any other!! Norcross and many others have been able to reach into our pockets and take our hard earned money because McCarron took away the Vote.
So area manager Breslyn has not been disciplined for having sex in a. Union office with his subordinate. His secreatary. So another mark on Sproule sin ability to lead. No discipline on Jon Robinson car accident in union Cecile at 3am. This man has no ability to lead. Just another lamb in a bosses position. Feds will be hearing about no action taking place.
Maybe our organizers. Should be completed the dreadful. Mupp program for the union instead of delivering. Stewards card. 2 organizers deliver stewards cards at 130000 a piece. Great use of our money Sproule s
Hey. Doug. I know it’s soon. But since you going to get rid of me anyway and let Clancy be the. EST. Can you throw a good word for me with the feds to take this thing over when you go to jail. Because that’s how you got in when did Lucas end went down. Well no fat ass Sproule your going with me buddy !!!!!!
ReplyDeleteThere are 30 years of activities to review under an expanded investigation. Doug and Co. have been exploiting their positions for their personal gain at the expense of working members since his first election!!!
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile on a verrrry related note.
ReplyDeleteAs i stated earlier in another post.
A fed prosecutor is now expanding the tax fraud investigation of george norcross in the camden area.
It is all related.
Think xpress scripts. Oh yeah. You didnt vote on that either.
Georgie did. Gov Murphy is going after him as i said.
Our fearless idiots got in bed with norcross. Time to pay the piper.
With the potential for real change in our future I will not accept my fate being managed by half witts who couldn’t keep a job at Home Depot!!! No more!! I will not settle for stupid!!! I will not settle for the payment of representation that I pay for that i didn’t chose via a secrete ballot Vote!!!! This message should be headed by any former or current Representative who thinks they are going to replace McCarron with more of the same!!! Don’t bother because YOU will LOSE!!!!
ReplyDeletehow ironic is it doug did want tax fraud weeded out well your getting your wish people who live in glass houses should not throw rocks bye bye doug your getting your wish
ReplyDeleteNo. None of them will allowed to " survive" what they have WILLINGLY and KNOWINGLY engaged in.
ReplyDeleteIf more members would realize that WE actually have the power to create that change.
It requires one act of unity.
Something of a foreign concept to the union carpenter. Ironically.
KARMA IS A BITCH DIRTY DOUG
ReplyDeleteFeds. You listening?
ReplyDelete2 more names to add to your subpeona list.
Tricia Mueller
Michelle McCormick.
Founders of the money laundering outfit
Known as GroundWork Strategies.
No pay off or buy out or " donation" by the UBC gets done without these 2 money laundresses.
Founded in 2016. Hmmmmm.
Im sure Zoe Luna is proud of mama trish. Hopefully the ubc provides a ride to visit mama in jail.
Check out their " holdings"
Youllll be like omg. Could they tryyyyy and hide it better.
Bottom line. They are stealing member carpenters blind
McCarron has an election in nine months, he is 70 years old from a bygone era he reminds me of the bumbling Joe Biden presidential candidate,all McCarron needs is those aviator glasses that Biden wears and you couldn't tell them apart. Frank Spencer and Michael Capelli more than likely will be indicted before years end, and McCarron is next. Enjoy the show good members
ReplyDeleteHaaa!!! McCarron does remind me of Biden, two useless idiots!! Hey Doug have you been cross examined recently? It doesn’t sound fun. Some say it’s a prelude to ones demise fore the guilty already know the end is near. Any who happy Friday!!!
ReplyDeleteWhat about complicity? Those who stood by, even participated, in acts of crime for the benefit of Doug McCarron. The Carpenters membership has wasted millions of dollars on these co-conspirators . . . and Federal agencies needs to hold everyone one of them accountable. No one should escape, or even try to deny their involvement in these unbelievable acts, which stole precious dues money from the carpenter membership . . . facilitating the criminal image of unions, and decimated the meaning of brotherhood! All of us know most of these limp-dick-lackeys were only thinking about their own self-serving needs, but doing nothing . . . not standing up to Doug McCarron was wrong, and is wrong!
ReplyDeleteJohn DeCarlo
Dan Shanley
Frank Spencer
Mike Capelli
Doug Banes
Andris Silins
Mike Draper (the fat one)
Randy Sowell
Phil Newkirk
Jim Gleason
Randy Thornhill
Dan Langford
The above is a very small sample of the scum which has participated with or defended McCarron in his deceitful deeds. There are hundreds of other shyte-birds within the Carpenters Union who need to be added to this list and held accountable . . .
Anyone listening? The list needs to grow! Hopefully the “Feds” are reading!
They are reading.
DeleteLets briefly talk about a huge rip off.
Been going on for years.
Health Insurance.
No Carpenter should ever lose benefits while actively still working.
We are self funded. Not for profit. Tax exempt.
There should never ever be a " fund surplus"
Who does a fund surplus serve?
It serves the union ldrship.
Not the rank and file.
If im denied health benefits bc i only had 599 hours in 6 months:
I should get that 599 hours refunded to me to buy my own coverage.
When i have 960 hours in the same 6 month period... Everything over 600 should go to an account with my name and number ... Like a reserve.
Not back to the " fund"
Its the biggest theft and scam going.
Ex. If i work 2000 hours a year then why isnt the 800 hours i generated put into a fund account with my name and ubc number. For a year where i might need it.
I dare you to alll look at your work hours and how many overage hours you allll have contributed.
Then read the letter you " missed " hc by 4 hours.
There should never ever be a " surplus" and retirees should not be paying anything for hc that was promised to them.
There is actually a better system but it benefits YOU the worker and not the " fund" ..
Cant have that!!!
If the feds are indeed reading and listening.
DeleteI implore you to talk to your friends over in pa.
Do NOT LET JOHN DOUGHERTY make a plea!!!!!
Take it to fullllll trial with full disclosure.
If you do.... You will have GEORGE NORCROSS III ON A CROSS.
Handed to you by way of discovery.
You will also expose CORRUPT SUPREME COURT JUSTICE OF PA KEVIN DOUGHERTY!!!
alllll this via the co owner and founder of GROUND WORK STRATEGIES.
Tricia Mueller and her sidekick Michelle McCormack ARE the link between dougherty, norcross, and the carpenters corruption.
Its allll there. Plain as the nose on your face.
Marita Crawford ( pol activities and pac director of local 98 electricians) Tricia Mueller/ Michelle McCormick.
Go there!!! Request the documents of groundworks and their " holdings"
Look carefully at their " income sources" .... Im not sure what else i can do but take you by the hand and show you.
Its allll public record. The names and the players and events you allll can look at.
Start asking the " right" questions of the right players.
This ... If pursued.. Will destroy 80% of the politicians in new jersey and se pa.
Clean it out!!!!
feds swarming the philly area a lot of questions coming in on mike hand and sproles could they be looking into the local level its crazy something big is coming grab the popcorn and ballons were gonna have a parade headed to the slamer
ReplyDeleteThe feds have been here for over 4 years.
DeleteTheyve been watching, listening , and talking with rank and file.
Sproules knows 1 of the reasons why... So does mike hand.
Ask your delegates that you didnt vote for in over 7 years.
Merger number 2.
An action to cover criminal activities of merger number 1.
The " mccarron" culture of " 70%"( which is pure unicorns and fairy dust)
Actuallly means ...70% of YOU are worker bees that feed the illicit 30% appointed, hand picked, " leadership" while having absolutely no voice or input.
Or does it mean he hopes to win 70% of the law suits against us?
Or does it mean he is okay with getting 70% of 100% of the loans made out to ventures and companies that threaten manhours and employment
Or does it mean the reduction in wages and benefits by 70% to compete.
Doug McCarron is a prime example of what happens when dictators gain control of any organization or government.
Their vision is not always the clearest and ideas stagnate because they cut off voice or concern and dissent.
Meanwhile their pride leads the narrative and they cant alter their course or actions.
Its like making bad decisions that then beget bad outcomes. Instead of regrouping and forming a better plan.. Doug makes another bad decision to support the 1st bad decision and it than becomes a series of failures ... Then laws get ignored because the way out of continuous bad decisions requires honesty, truth, and input from the people affected by each bad decision.
When you stop listening and continue the insanity... Eventually it stops. Unfortunately the trail of carnage in your wake rises back up to destroy you.
Doug is now in that phase.
speaking of ripoffs do you think anyone is investgating the retire scam the union is pulling so they let retirees work no problem they pay the same union dues as you but all of their healt insurance payments they don't get the union keeps that I beilive it in the area of 12 something an hour but the retirees don't get that money they have the retirees insurance so you wonder why the union likes them working your deductions a little over 100 a week a retirees dections pushing 500 how can the union be entitled to that money who investigates that would it be erba or dol
ReplyDeleteThe whole thing is a sham.
ReplyDeleteThe entire carpenter union culture has been corrupted.
Look at this concept for a second.
Kml is spending a fortune on " advisors" and public relations consultants , and many other " image enhancing" programs.
To sell the public on an image.
Think about this.
Millions are going to " sell" the public.
News flash.
Your image comes from your member body.
Why wouldnt you start by trying to " sell" your own members?
The fact is... Your own members dont like you, dont trust you, dont support you, and want you in jail...
Pretty hard selling point when your own members wont piss on you if you were on fire.
Yet. Every kml " function" that shows volunteer work always features a council rep as if they would even know how to use a tool
Mike Hand was a concrete step and fetch.
Layla Bibi was the 2nd laziest carpenter ive ever worked with.
Its a fucking disgrace.
Its just EXACTLY how we are being run now. The rank and file carpenter goes out and does alll the work.... The council rep swoops in for the photo op.
Is it because their afraid the press might actuallllly talk to the r/f carpenter.
You should be thankful anyone even shows up. ( again that would be a point of interest to see how many were coerced or told they HAD to volunteer with either a promise of mups credit, a job, or a veiled threat theyd lose their already appointed job?)
The UBC does have an image problem.
Continually worsened by the shit bags in charge.
Correct your culture. Get rid of the thieving lying self dealing criminal leadership.
Create a Union again where members take pride in being supportive.
This is Doug McCarrons legacy.
Ubc is in tatters and rags.
This is allll of those who followed doug.
You are all guilty.
Andddd loook at that!!!
DeleteMillions spent to promote KML. And now we are Eastern Atlantic States. Pissed away millions to present a " front" to cover the criminal activity by the dissolution of NRCC.
Feds. Look at the year mccarron dumped millions in placid investors. A shell company run by him, newkirk, welch Silins.
Look at the year philly was raided..... Then ask doug.
Real simple.
Whered the money come from you " invested " in yourselves?
69 million dollars to themselves.
A company that provides zerooooooo work for union carpenters. As a matter of fact.... It cuts manhours.
Let me ask him under oath in a grand jury. ( that and 12 other questions)
Keep your attorneys there to take notes.
I couldn’t agree more about the Medical benefits!! How is it fair to keep money paid on my behalf but deny me the service because I’m a dollar short? I’m a normal world If I can’t buy it then I leave with my money and no product, but I don’t leave with nothing!! Can we bank hours? No. And your spot on about the surplus!! What’s the point of a surplus of no one is working we will he denied health care coverage regardless of the value of the surplus that we built!!! We should dissolve the whole health care fund and get insurance through a regular provider.
ReplyDeleteHey Doug, if you ask someone something twice,and they tell you the truth twice I guess you got to FIRE THEM!!! "You lie to the general president you make a career decision". Doug McCarron judge jury and executioner
ReplyDeleteThose members who post on this board obviously know why Team McCarron must go, so we’re the choir and we’re preaching to our selves. Those we need to preach to are our members on the job who are less than informed or “just want to work”. These are the members that can select the next UBC President but who will remain on the sidelines if they are not educated about what’s it at stake. What is the most important way to reach these ambivalent members? Money!!! Ask them how much money they will have contributed over the course of the their career? (Avg. Contribution: $10.00 x 40 hrs = $400.00 per week x 45 weeks per year = $18,000 per year x 30 years = $540,000 approx. Total). What they are going to do when they can’t retire as planned? Why don’t they have a say as to how their Union is managed?
ReplyDeleteThe person who controls the pension and the healthcare is the most powerful person in a union. Any union.
DeleteThey can make you dance, sing, juggle, and act the fool.
There is a reason h/w is self funded.
It IS THE ONLY VEHICLE IN WHICH THE UNION CAN USE AS LEVERAGE.
It used to be pensions but bc of federal intervention and laws there were protections enacted so we allll didnt end up like the roofers. Or the early teamsters.
H/w is the last tool.
It is a complete sham.
Under the premise of collective bargaining, and our union touts this ... They willll never give up the " fund" and shop it out to the best price and return.
Unless of course there was a vote. There are no more votes.
Is the picture getting clearer.
We are being " ruled" by a tyrant.
Funny. The ubc constitution used to limit what leadership could do. They served at the liesure of the member body.
For over 26 years... Doug McCarron has relied on apathy and intimidation and retaliation to go from " serving" to " ruling " the largest slave body in the country.
It is time we removed him.
Doug McCarron you have nobody to blame but yourself
ReplyDeleteAs we all know the stakes for change couldn’t be higher; our careers, livelihoods, the welfare of our families, retirement, etc. It’s time to step up in 2020, regardless of the consequences, because the right people can save the UBC, or we’ll see everything we have disappear in less than 10 years. Before us lies the best chance for real change we’ve had since McCarron was elected. I’m not going to let it pass me by and none of you should either!!!
ReplyDeleteI'll be glad to see them all go to prison.Start fresh with elected rank and file members.
ReplyDeleteHow much money has been collected from MUP fees and where does it go? What’s it used for? What is the money not to be used for? Where is the criteria for the collection AND the use of the MUP money located? Is it the Council Bylaws??
ReplyDeleteThe mups was adopted in to the by laws. Why do you think jerk offs like Ron McLeod and Charles Brock kept kicking questions down the road. Refusing to name who was on the committee. Refusing to allow rank and file voices on said committees ?
DeleteHeres better questions.
Where is the Mup fund listed ANYWHERE on a LM2. A 990?
Anywhere?
How much money is in it?
What is the fund for?
What are the yearly " fines" collected?
Who or what has been paid from this fund and why?
Is the fund interest bearing?
If so where does this intetest go?
Are there trustees?
Who are the trustees?
Who manages this fund?
Where are the financial status and reports ( required by law) and why are we even asking these questions?
Is the fund tax exempt?
Should we inform the IRS and OLMS that something shady is going on? Oh waitttt. We did.
We Are Everywhere.
We know all of you.
We are uncovering all your activities .... One at a time.
Hmmmm, so the NRCC MUP money was transferred to the KML Council into some account that isn’t listed on the KML’s list of accounts? Someone should ask where this money is located, what’s used for, who manages the money etc. The Council formerly known as the KML has to have a list of all financial accounts and corresponding statements that can be reviewed. I’m sure all this information will be available at the next Council Meeting.
DeleteOk you win please don’t check on how we steal the retirees health Benifits or any of our made up buisnesss. Or how many times hand and Sproule. Go golfing Or the ilegal forced mupp. Program Nothing to se here keep moving fellows !!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteOk you win please don’t check on how we steal the retirees health Benifits or any of our made up buisnesss. Or how many times hand and Sproule. Go golfing Or the ilegal forced mupp. Program Nothing to se here keep moving fellows !!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteMike hand has his hands all over the discrimatory policy of letteing. Certain retirees work full time while. Stealing their health and welfare dip it’s. It’s all coming. Out Mr hand. If you were worried before it’s getting real now you loser !! Keep peeking out the blinds were out there. The feds are out there. Your days are numbered. !!!
ReplyDeleteSomething is going on with McCarron he searches for words, forgets peoples names, he looks kind of confused ??? He also shuffles around very strangely like there's something wrong with his hips or his back or feet???
ReplyDeleteHaHaHaHa, available at the next KML Council mtg.
ReplyDeleteWhat a f*cking joke that is!
Billys puppet will only provide the information that they tell him to.
He is not a president of the members.
Its time we as delegates ask and demand the information that we desire.
Maybe we should have a banner ready for the next council mtg demanding answers!
Haaaaa!!! Banner the Delegate meeting?? That would be awesome!! Speaking of Billy’s puppet Council President, hows he doing these days since his accident in Sea Isle this summer??
DeleteThey are scurrying. They cant hide it. They cant walk away from it. The mups is a " small" issue in the grand scheme of things.
DeleteI have consistently laid out the timelines and the events and most of the names.
Ill say it again.
This is a 3 part problem.
It started with regional politics and george norcross s desire and patient vendetta to obtain the phila market.
Every member here and every member you know should go back to the beginning.
Google the entry " norcrossing the delaware" almost every answer was in that article.
The problem was the press didnt know what follow ups to ask.
I encourage you to re read or read for the 1st time.... Carefully and critically this article.
Then flash forward to today and hopefully the lights come on.
Norcross is a symptom of the bigger problem we as members of the UBC have, and that is we can’t determine our own future in any way, if we could, none of us would give him anything, but we don’t have a choice in the matter or any other!! Norcross and many others have been able to reach into our pockets and take our hard earned money because McCarron took away the Vote.
DeleteSo area manager Breslyn has not been disciplined for having sex in a. Union office with his subordinate. His secreatary. So another mark on Sproule sin ability to lead. No discipline on Jon Robinson car accident in union Cecile at 3am. This man has no ability to lead. Just another lamb in a bosses position. Feds will be hearing about no action taking place.
ReplyDeleteMaybe our organizers. Should be completed the dreadful. Mupp program for the union instead of delivering. Stewards card. 2 organizers deliver stewards cards at 130000 a piece. Great use of our money Sproule s
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