THIS SITE WAS CREATED TO DISCUSS AND EXPOSE THE ONGOING PERSECUTION OF UBC UNION MEMBER MIKE MCCARRON. IT WAS CREATED TO DETAIL HIS BATTLE TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE TYRANNICAL PRACTICES OF THE PRESENT LEADERSHIP OF THE UNITED BROTHERHOOD OF CARPENTERS.
THIS SITE ALSO HAS ALWAYS ENDEAVORED TO EXPOSE THE ONGOING CORRUPTION IN THE UBC AND THE FRAUDULENT ACTS OF THE UBC LEADERSHIP UNDER DOUGLAS MCCARRON
the swrcc uses selective law enforcment to reward or destroy members those who try to expose the complete take over by mexico of the const.industry in the southwest united states will be destroyed ive seen and lived it first hand those who extort and exploit the government made slave ie illegal immegrants rewarded the nlrb has been run by laraza for 6 years trust me there is no one to go to for recourse they are either in on it or chicken shit affraid they will be destroyed to
ya poor mike it could be worse he could be like me and so many other so cal carpenters bvlacklisted and left destitute by slave owners who love the extortable exploitable illegals the statr and union give them to run into the ground steal from and throw away at will gov gets their kickback mexico their remmisions union their money from selling cards and the vested members get the fat shaft
ever read orwells animal farm identical to what mccarrons have did to carpenters union the pigs livn in the peoples house livn like kings the vested hard working boxer a horse be taken to his promised green pasture retirement in a glue factory truck phaqn pigs16312
california uses selective law enforcment like then nazis did with the jews to destroy anybody that does not tow the communist line land of the greed home of the slave and the pigs livn in the peoples house live large
Sorry for the delay.I check once or twice a day.Your remark "only pro mike comments make it" is not true. The comments that dont make it are vulgar or racist comments. We also only screen the UBC hacks sent to spew UBC Propaganda or more lies. If you post BS be prepared to answer for it and prove what you post is fact. I would be glad to debate Decarlo,Draper,Newkirk Dirty Doug or the Munchkin. Hell we will set it up and go live.
and if you want to know what i say is fact start by getting copys of the membership retention list a list kept of all members entering and leaving brotherhood and why they left it is required by the carpenters by laws to be recorded start with so. cal and then we will all know if what i say is bs
making mike out to be the only scape goat for the actions of the swrcc in the last 6 years is some kind of sad joke its funny it all went down after he signed the pla s giving local carpenters some chance of getting work as the full mobility was destroying most local carpenters chance of getting work near home
How about posting the language for the Council ByLaws change that has been claimed to allow Doug McCarron to receive a South West Regional Council of Carpenters retirement pension - while still working as General President? When were these new ByLaws adopted and has Doug McCarron really been collecting this pension (and for how long)? Also, if this is true, how is it that every other carpenter who is an officer of a local union always steps down when they retire. Retired carpenters are not allowed to run for office in local elections - yet Doug McCarron is an officer of his local union - and what other positions / if any, does he currently hold with the SWRCC? This would not be possible for any other member to get away with - so please explain, how is this allowed to happen? I am sure that the membership would be interested in knowing the full story on this.
Thanks for your prompt response in answering these questions and in providing the additional background info - which is helpful and appreciated. In your response, it is stated, “THE LANGUAGE CHANGE WAS MADE TO THE SWRCC PENSION FUND RULES. IT IS SAID TO BE RULE 2 AND ONLY APPLIES TO DOUG MCCARRON.” Is “Rule #2” a secret? Or, is it available for the membership to review? After all aren’t all of the Pension Fund Rules - the rules that each and every member must abide by - the rules that are enacted for the benefit of ALL the members? Would our Pension Trustees ever agree to make a rule that would benefit only one person???
So, HowZabout we see Rule #2 -or- at the very least… let’s hear why they say - we can’t see Rule #2.
And, I just gots to ask… As, I don’t know who our 3 Trustees are representing Labor on the SWRCC Pension Trust - but would Doug McCarron happen to be a one of them?
Can we stand together? Can we call on every brother and sister in the UNION ( unfortunately that is a loose term in our case) . 65000 plus members. We all want the right to vote. Can we unite ? The convention is coming . Will anyone run against the tyrant. How can a handful stand against so many? UNITE!TALK!CALL EVERYONE! WE CAN IF WE UNITE!
An earlier post says, “THE UBC PENSION FUND OWNS 1,275,000 SHARES OF WALMART STOCK .” According to our Constitution, as members we are … “to support businesses and individuals that respect and honor the goals and principles of the labor movement.” Our Oath of Obligation says, “I agree that I will ask for the Union Label-and purchase union made goods- and employ only union labor-when same can be had.” I think it goes without saying that the same applies towards any pension investments. Surely we’re not looking for the best rate of return without considering the social costs. Have we sunk so low that we now invest in corruption - a moral corruption? Walmart low wages cost everyone. Wages are so low that many employees have to supplement their meager income with various government assistance - thats taxpayer subsidized. Have any of our Big-Wigs in the Carpenters organization ever heard of UNDERMINING AREA STANDARDS??? The Labor Movement was founded upon principles such as standing together as a community. In this economy, how many of our spouses or sons and daughters might have to work for slave wages at places like Walmart? Now extend that thinking to your neighbors - or to the parents that your children go to school with…. Are you getting the idea. How about a big BANNER that reads Shame on Doug McCarron & the way our pension money is invested?
How do you suppose unionized grocery workers would react when they hear that the Carpenters owns stock in Walmart? How would Carpenter Union Members react if other unions invested in non-union construction companies who were in competition on a daily basis with Union Contractors?
I would hope that through all that Mike McCarron has went through he has at least learned that "The Carpenter Eco System" is not the best way. The Carpenter Eco System is best described as Control. Control of the Councils, Control of the Locals, Control of the Delegates, Control of the Business Agents, Control of Trustees, Control of Apprenticeship Instructors and the list goes on and on. For years and years we (The Membership) have sat in the audience at our meetings and watched it happen right in front of our eyes. The Members need to start by taking back their locals. No White Ballots, No paid employee of any council or entity should hold office at any local. No paid employee of any Council or entity should be part of any Board. And no employee of the Council or entity especially should not be a Delegate to the Council or the General Convention. Hello..... Does anybody else see a Conflict of Interest here? What will these guys do or say to keep their job? It's only human nature the answer is ANYTHING. Shame on Us (The Membership) for letting them slowly shove this down our throat. Members should hold these positions with unbiased resolve. The members should be cashing these 8 hr. pay for a E-board/union meeting checks. The Members should be in Las Vegas living it up for a few days. If your not understanding then collect your raffle tickets and go back in in the audience and go back to sleep. Oh don't forget to wake up for the food. Mike was part of this whole Control thing but then again remember his teacher. I believe in Mike McCarron because of his character and my past dealings with Mike good and bad. I really appreciate the fact that he hasn't settled for anything less than Innocent of all charges. How easy would it be to accept an offer to go away and ride off into the sunset counting your money. Kudos Mike.
did you know that Floyd clay is living in a luxury condo paid for by the carpenters, driving a luxury car all expenses paid for by the carpenters, receiving pension and pay from the carpenters, took a guest,not his wife to Hawaii paid for by the carpenters ? He must be doing something very creative up there at the trust for them to want him back that much, and he must be compensated very well to come out of retirement to the tune of over $10,000 a month (TRIPLE PENSION) to go back to work....are you listening IRS ???
How are our pension funds doing? With the stock market, this is the worst start for a year - ever. In the alternative media it is reported the the average U.S. stock is already down more than 20 percent. China’s stock markets have crashed twice and have caused emergency shut downs. This financial crisis continues…. we are worse off now than we were in 2008. None of the mainstream economist saw this coming in 2008 - but plenty did in the alternative media. Of those who correctly called it back then - they have all been sounding the alarm that economic chaos has been approaching once again. According to them - this time it will be more devistating than in 2008, With so little to be gained from investing in the casino stock market - and with so much that can be lost… (talk to union members who have been around and know about pension losses from previous economic downturns)… then why risk taking such a severe hit? With the reported 20% loss in the stock market - this begs the question…. How did the Carpenters Union pension investments make out? Did we just loose 20% as well? In the past when this happened, it would take many years -in good times- to recoup losses. Today, we might not recover. And its not over yet. In response to all of this - Members deserve knowing what the status is of our pension funds.
The truth is that all of the pensions in the UBC are in trouble except the international pension. You can go to the DOL and tell them of the corruption and nothing happens. The DOL is controlled by the Unions and the Democrats. Then they wonder why the members voted for President Trump.
the swrcc has a long history of throwing others unions under the bus. the little secret is in todays new economy if every worker was given union wages and benefits the economy would collapse in a day. same reason they threw grocery and retail under the bus and backed the biggest union destroying corp in the world wal mart
ThANK YOU SITE ADMINISTRATOR, i am pleased that there is a forum for people to express the truth about doug mccarron’s dishonest life and career. i have watched DOUG MCCARRON ATTACK THE UNION’S SYSTEM from afar AND FELT IT WAS TIME TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT MCCARRON. I knew doug mccarron and worked around him back in the early 70’s, back when he was wearing his tools. he didn't last very long as a drywall hanger because he hated the work. mccarron was never a union guy, he was a wheeler dealer. the mccarron i knew was always making deals, cash deals, for drywall work. there were several guys mccarron would get cash work from, and he would get guys like me to help with the board hanging. i read on earlier blog pieces about people calling him cash mccarron, which is true, it was mccarron’s nickname. i never trusted him, nobody did back in those days, but he kept us busy with cash jobs. mccarron was always a bully, with a terrible temper. a really big guy at the time i worked around him, due to lifting weights, and who knows what kind of DRUGS he was taking to get as big as he did, but he had to be on something that caused him to grow so quickly in size. i stop hanging out with mccarron because i couldn’t trust him, and i got tired of his explosive temper. mccarron was a jerk to people, unless they did him favors. i remember seeing mccarron in a local bar many of us use to hang out in, and he would pick fights with some of the smallest guys he could find, JUST TO SHOW HE WAS A TOUGH GUY. mccarron is really an a-HolE, and no one liked him. it seemed that the con man mccarron always found trouble, but somehow found a way out of it. many of us who worked with mccarron in the housing tracts thought it was a joke when we found out mccarron was getting involved in the union. when we heard that he was hoping to be a business AGENT at the union, we just knew he was planning to scam somebody. mccarron never cared about anybody’s well being, so how could he ever represent union members? I HAVE talked to old friends about mccarron, and they all say the same thing, you can’t trust the guy. it amazes everyone that i know who knew doug mccarron that he is not in jail, caught for some illegal activity.
There were a few men who sold Mike out. Some purposely ram rodded by an unknown person or persons. And those who were suckered into it. There is a lot of lip service and manipulation that goes into any local, any district council, any district, and any International. There are also those who wear blinders and do their daily yes sir jobs. The ones who rock the boat by questioning. Well they are out the car. There are 3 individuals at the SWRCC that would throw their advosaris under the proverbial bus for disloyalty or questions. And never correct one while in front of others if they are wrong by saying something. They will get you fired as a FS did to someone close to him, a so called friend. You can all know that they do run the representatives and business agents. To their agenda. Which is their job. But when it comes at more of a cost to the members, how is that fair. Back when no one had vision, dental, and whatever else they had to take for balances. Not one agent or representative lost theirs. They always have it. Car, monthly expense account, pay for everything they do extra. Even though they are salary and get a double pension.Vacation checks you get $1.00. They get $2.00. Lots of ways to fill pockets and deceive people. They pull down $140,000 if not more a year. They retaliate on some and praise those on the leg. I am not telling anything that is not true. So not to publish this would be extremely biased and prejudice. Especially to the working men and women some ride the backs of. Talking to you 70 %.
Any more news about Cappelli and Spencer? I follow your posts daily, but you haven't posted anything as far as November. Please keep us posted we enjoy your news and posts.
the swrcc uses selective law enforcment to reward or destroy members those who try to expose the complete take over by mexico of the const.industry in the southwest united states will be destroyed ive seen and lived it first hand those who extort and exploit the government made slave ie illegal immegrants rewarded the nlrb has been run by laraza for 6 years trust me there is no one to go to for recourse they are either in on it or chicken shit affraid they will be destroyed to
ReplyDeleteya poor mike it could be worse he could be like me and so many other so cal carpenters bvlacklisted and left destitute by slave owners who love the extortable exploitable illegals the statr and union give them to run into the ground steal from and throw away at will gov gets their kickback mexico their remmisions union their money from selling cards and the vested members get the fat shaft
ReplyDeleteever read orwells animal farm identical to what mccarrons have did to carpenters union the pigs livn in the peoples house livn like kings the vested hard working boxer a horse be taken to his promised green pasture retirement in a glue factory truck phaqn pigs16312
ReplyDeletecalifornia uses selective law enforcment like then nazis did with the jews to destroy anybody that does not tow the communist line land of the greed home of the slave and the pigs livn in the peoples house live large
ReplyDeletecalifornia is well on its way to being a workers paradise like no korea or china identical you know all for the working man
ReplyDeleteno comments on any of these articles i guess no one cares or only pro mike comments make it
ReplyDeleteSorry for the delay.I check once or twice a day.Your remark "only pro mike comments make it" is not true. The comments that dont make it are vulgar or racist comments. We also only screen the UBC hacks sent to spew UBC Propaganda or more lies. If you post BS be prepared to answer for it and prove what you post is fact. I would be glad to debate Decarlo,Draper,Newkirk Dirty Doug or the Munchkin. Hell we will set it up and go live.
ReplyDeletethank you very much for posting my comments
ReplyDeleteand if you want to know what i say is fact start by getting copys of the membership retention list a list kept of all members entering and leaving brotherhood and why they left it is required by the carpenters by laws to be recorded start with so. cal and then we will all know if what i say is bs
ReplyDeletemaking mike out to be the only scape goat for the actions of the swrcc in the last 6 years is some kind of sad joke its funny it all went down after he signed the pla s giving local carpenters some chance of getting work as the full mobility was destroying most local carpenters chance of getting work near home
ReplyDeleteDid mikes own e-board members sell him out?
ReplyDeleteHow about posting the language for the Council ByLaws change that has been claimed to allow Doug McCarron to receive a South West Regional Council of Carpenters retirement pension - while still working as General President? When were these new ByLaws adopted and has Doug McCarron really been collecting this pension (and for how long)? Also, if this is true, how is it that every other carpenter who is an officer of a local union always steps down when they retire. Retired carpenters are not allowed to run for office in local elections - yet Doug McCarron is an officer of his local union - and what other positions / if any, does he currently hold with the SWRCC? This would not be possible for any other member to get away with - so please explain, how is this allowed to happen? I am sure that the membership would be interested in knowing the full story on this.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your prompt response in answering these questions and in providing the additional background info - which is helpful and appreciated.
ReplyDeleteIn your response, it is stated, “THE LANGUAGE CHANGE WAS MADE TO THE SWRCC PENSION FUND RULES. IT IS SAID TO BE RULE 2 AND ONLY APPLIES TO DOUG MCCARRON.”
Is “Rule #2” a secret? Or, is it available for the membership to review? After all aren’t all of the Pension Fund Rules - the rules that each and every member must abide by - the rules that are enacted for the benefit of ALL the members? Would our Pension Trustees ever agree to make a rule that would benefit only one person???
So, HowZabout we see Rule #2 -or- at the very least… let’s hear why they say - we can’t see Rule #2.
And, I just gots to ask…
As, I don’t know who our 3 Trustees are representing Labor on the SWRCC Pension Trust - but would Doug McCarron happen to be a one of them?
Can we stand together? Can we call on every brother and sister in the UNION ( unfortunately that is a loose term in our case) . 65000 plus members. We all want the right to vote. Can we unite ? The convention is coming . Will anyone run against the tyrant. How can a handful stand against so many? UNITE!TALK!CALL EVERYONE! WE CAN IF WE UNITE!
ReplyDeleteAn earlier post says, “THE UBC PENSION FUND OWNS 1,275,000 SHARES OF WALMART STOCK .”
ReplyDeleteAccording to our Constitution, as members we are … “to support businesses and individuals that respect and honor the goals and principles of the labor movement.” Our Oath of Obligation says, “I agree that I will ask for the Union Label-and purchase union made goods- and employ only union labor-when same can be had.”
I think it goes without saying that the same applies towards any pension investments. Surely we’re not looking for the best rate of return without considering the social costs. Have we sunk so low that we now invest in corruption - a moral corruption? Walmart low wages cost everyone. Wages are so low that many employees have to supplement their meager income with various government assistance - thats taxpayer subsidized.
Have any of our Big-Wigs in the Carpenters organization ever heard of UNDERMINING AREA STANDARDS???
The Labor Movement was founded upon principles such as standing together as a community. In this economy, how many of our spouses or sons and daughters might have to work for slave wages at places like Walmart? Now extend that thinking to your neighbors - or to the parents that your children go to school with…. Are you getting the idea. How about a big BANNER that reads Shame on Doug McCarron & the way our pension money is invested?
How do you suppose unionized grocery workers would react when they hear that the Carpenters owns stock in Walmart? How would Carpenter Union Members react if other unions invested in non-union construction companies who were in competition on a daily basis with Union Contractors?
ReplyDeleteis the Southwest Regional Council of carpenters still under supervision?
ReplyDeleteI would hope that through all that Mike McCarron has went through he has at least learned that "The Carpenter Eco System" is not the best way. The Carpenter Eco System is best described as Control. Control of the Councils, Control of the Locals, Control of the Delegates, Control of the Business Agents, Control of Trustees, Control of Apprenticeship Instructors and the list goes on and on. For years and years we (The Membership) have sat in the audience at our meetings and watched it happen right in front of our eyes. The Members need to start by taking back their locals. No White Ballots, No paid employee of any council or entity should hold office at any local. No paid employee of any Council or entity should be part of any Board. And no employee of the Council or entity especially should not be a Delegate to the Council or the General Convention. Hello..... Does anybody else see a Conflict of Interest here? What will these guys do or say to keep their job? It's only human nature the answer is ANYTHING. Shame on Us (The Membership) for letting them slowly shove this down our throat. Members should hold these positions with unbiased resolve. The members should be cashing these 8 hr. pay for a E-board/union meeting checks. The Members should be in Las Vegas living it up for a few days. If your not understanding then collect your raffle tickets and go back in in the audience and go back to sleep. Oh don't forget to wake up for the food. Mike was part of this whole Control thing but then again remember his teacher. I believe in Mike McCarron because of his character and my past dealings with Mike good and bad. I really appreciate the fact that he hasn't settled for anything less than Innocent of all charges. How easy would it be to accept an offer to go away and ride off into the sunset counting your money. Kudos Mike.
ReplyDeletedid you know that Floyd clay is living in a luxury condo paid for by the carpenters, driving a luxury car all expenses paid for by the carpenters, receiving pension and pay from the carpenters, took a guest,not his wife to Hawaii paid for by the carpenters ? He must be doing something very creative up there at the trust for them to want him back that much, and he must be compensated very well to come out of retirement to the tune of over $10,000 a month (TRIPLE PENSION) to go back to work....are you listening IRS ???
ReplyDelete(Unionfacts.com) Daniel Langford 2013 total compensation $155,616.00
ReplyDeleteHe always wanted to be (THE MAN)
ReplyDeleteHow are our pension funds doing? With the stock market, this is the worst start for a year - ever. In the alternative media it is reported the the average U.S. stock is already down more than 20 percent. China’s stock markets have crashed twice and have caused emergency shut downs. This financial crisis continues…. we are worse off now than we were in 2008. None of the mainstream economist saw this coming in 2008 - but plenty did in the alternative media. Of those who correctly called it back then - they have all been sounding the alarm that economic chaos has been approaching once again. According to them - this time it will be more devistating than in 2008, With so little to be gained from investing in the casino stock market - and with so much that can be lost… (talk to union members who have been around and know about pension losses from previous economic downturns)… then why risk taking such a severe hit? With the reported 20% loss in the stock market - this begs the question….
ReplyDeleteHow did the Carpenters Union pension investments make out? Did we just loose 20% as well? In the past when this happened, it would take many years -in good times- to recoup losses. Today, we might not recover. And its not over yet.
In response to all of this - Members deserve knowing what the status is of our pension funds.
The truth is that all of the pensions in the UBC are in trouble except the international pension. You can go to the DOL and tell them of the corruption and nothing happens. The DOL is controlled by the Unions and the Democrats. Then they wonder why the members voted for President Trump.
ReplyDeletethe swrcc has a long history of throwing others unions under the bus. the little secret is in todays new economy if every worker was given union wages and benefits the economy would collapse in a day. same reason they threw grocery and retail under the bus and backed the biggest union destroying corp in the world wal mart
ReplyDeleteThANK YOU SITE ADMINISTRATOR, i am pleased that there is a forum for people to express the truth about doug mccarron’s dishonest life and career. i have watched DOUG MCCARRON ATTACK THE UNION’S SYSTEM from afar AND FELT IT WAS TIME TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT MCCARRON. I knew doug mccarron and worked around him back in the early 70’s, back when he was wearing his tools. he didn't last very long as a drywall hanger because he hated the work. mccarron was never a union guy, he was a wheeler dealer. the mccarron i knew was always making deals, cash deals, for drywall work. there were several guys mccarron would get cash work from, and he would get guys like me to help with the board hanging. i read on earlier blog pieces about people calling him cash mccarron, which is true, it was mccarron’s nickname. i never trusted him, nobody did back in those days, but he kept us busy with cash jobs. mccarron was always a bully, with a terrible temper. a really big guy at the time i worked around him, due to lifting weights, and who knows what kind of DRUGS he was taking to get as big as he did, but he had to be on something that caused him to grow so quickly in size. i stop hanging out with mccarron because i couldn’t trust him, and i got tired of his explosive temper. mccarron was a jerk to people, unless they did him favors. i remember seeing mccarron in a local bar many of us use to hang out in, and he would pick fights with some of the smallest guys he could find, JUST TO SHOW HE WAS A TOUGH GUY. mccarron is really an a-HolE, and no one liked him. it seemed that the con man mccarron always found trouble, but somehow found a way out of it. many of us who worked with mccarron in the housing tracts thought it was a joke when we found out mccarron was getting involved in the union. when we heard that he was hoping to be a business AGENT at the union, we just knew he was planning to scam somebody. mccarron never cared about anybody’s well being, so how could he ever represent union members? I HAVE talked to old friends about mccarron, and they all say the same thing, you can’t trust the guy. it amazes everyone that i know who knew doug mccarron that he is not in jail, caught for some illegal activity.
ReplyDeleteThere were a few men who sold Mike out. Some purposely ram rodded by an unknown person or persons. And those who were suckered into it. There is a lot of lip service and manipulation that goes into any local, any district council, any district, and any International. There are also those who wear blinders and do their daily yes sir jobs. The ones who rock the boat by questioning. Well they are out the car. There are 3 individuals at the SWRCC that would throw their advosaris under the proverbial bus for disloyalty or questions. And never correct one while in front of others if they are wrong by saying something. They will get you fired as a FS did to someone close to him, a so called friend.
ReplyDeleteYou can all know that they do run the representatives and business agents. To their agenda. Which is their job. But when it comes at more of a cost to the members, how is that fair. Back when no one had vision, dental, and whatever else they had to take for balances. Not one agent or representative lost theirs. They always have it. Car, monthly expense account, pay for everything they do extra. Even though they are salary and get a double pension.Vacation checks you get $1.00. They get $2.00. Lots of ways to fill pockets and deceive people. They pull down $140,000 if not more a year. They retaliate on some and praise those on the leg. I am not telling anything that is not true. So not to publish this would be extremely biased and prejudice. Especially to the working men and women some ride the backs of. Talking to you 70 %.
Buy every union bitch a copy of The Expected One
ReplyDeleteKathleen McGowan
PLACE IT INSIDE A BLACK LEATHER COACH HANDBAG. Buy every union bitch a copy of The Expected One Kathleen McGowan
ReplyDeleteAnd don’t forget the flowers
ReplyDeleteAny more news about Cappelli and Spencer? I follow your posts daily, but you haven't posted anything as far as November. Please keep us posted we enjoy your news and posts.
ReplyDeleteI wasted 32 years of my life in this shit Union; your all a bunch of rats. Scum of the earth,
ReplyDeleteHow can we talk off the site?
ReplyDeleteSend me an email at mrsrichardsaunders@yahoo.com. After we have vetted each other we can talk
ReplyDelete