HEY DOUGY.GUESS WHO!!!!
"The Titanic sank in the early morning of 15 April 1912 in the North Atlantic Ocean"
THE SS DIRTY DOUG MCCARRON SANK IN THE EARLY MORNING OF 13 NOVEMBER 2019
IN THE PROPHETICALLY JUST RENAMED NORTH ATLANTIC STATES REGIONAL COUNCIL
ACCORDING TO DIRTY DOUG THE FOLLOWING UBC ENTITIES WERE SUBPOENAED BY A NEW JERSEY GRAND JURY
NOW DOUGY THE ICE CREAM CRAPPER ALSO CLAIMS
THE UBC "DOES NOT KNOW THE REASON FOR THE SUBPOENAS"..
YOU LYING SACK OF SHTYE ..IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO REFRESH YOUR MEMORY GIVE ME A CALL DOUGY
sub·poe·na
/səˈpēnə/
Law
verb
past tense: subpoenaed; past participle: subpoenaed
- summon (someone) with a subpoena.
- require (a document or other evidence) to be submitted to a court of law.
HEY DECARLO YOU SPINDLE DICK PRICK.CINCH UP YOUR LOINS.I BET YOU ARE FLOPPING LIKE A FISH
DEAR US ATTORNEY
EBSA
OLMS
AND FBI
IN THE WORDS OF THE IMMORTAL GEORGE M COHAN
"MY FATHER THANKS YOU.MY MOTHER THANKS YOU AND I THANK YOU
HEY TOMMY FLYNN ..YOU MCCARRON RAT AND STOOGE.STICK THE NORTH ATLANTIC COUNCIL IN YOUR ASS
the three blind mice are you scared yet its just beginning its not over to we say its over you scumbagsthat think you own the members its amazing to think a bunch of washed up drywallers will sink easystreet for you guys hey dougy don't worry if your kness are shaking to bad you can put fat sprolles double chin in there when your done golfing hey do us all a favor take yourself out of office before we see you leaving in handcuffs what a disgrace
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ReplyDeleteHas Christmas come early????
ReplyDeleteHey Doug, everything is funny as long as it's happening to somebody else! now it's you and it's TRUE. You so deserve this asshole
ReplyDeleteHey Douglas.
ReplyDeleteThis is a message from Philadelphia Pa. The founding local of the United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America.
Did you honestly think that we would " let this go"?
Many of us are 5th generation and 4th generation carpenter families.
Many of us have actually sought the feds out. Can you imagine that?
Many of us have watched as you systematically installed a paid protectorate up and down the entire leadership chain.... All without vote or voice.
You always testified that it was " a democratic process"
Lying to anyone who let you.
Guess who the " deranged loner commie " is ?
You.
Did you think we wouldnt gather paperwork? Investigate on our own?
Philadelphia was our birthplace.
Philadelphia will be your swansong.
You f d with the wrong group
You realize you will die in prison.
Spencer? Cappelli? Waterkotte? Thornhill? And others.
You are all next.
We will not stop.
Billy Sproules was offered a chance to step down 2 months ago by a blogger on here.
Billy should have listened.
We are everywhere
We have all the documents. All the phone calls. Many of the conversations.
Rot in hell you son of a bitches.
Thank you to the few members with balls who had to stand up to these crooks anonymously. And especially thank you to the writer of this blog site who is a huge help through the years of exposing these corrupt crooks. 👍 So William Sproule, start packing!!! Go back to A.C. I hear the blues are running. Mike Hand go retire already, your two pensions should be plenty. Hocker, you’re done. Not a chance in hell will you make it with your tools. I can only imagine how many people have it out for you. Ha ha ha!
ReplyDeleteYou guys been yes-man since you were appointed to these corrupt positions for years. You know the old saying what comes around goes around, well it’s going around buddy!!!
I’ll bet the next few days are going to be hard to sleep. Meanwhile the few members that stood up to these corrupt crooks are sleeping like babies on a brand new quilt.
The ship is starting to take on water!!!
ReplyDeleteOne merger too far!!
The northeast, particularly what he did in Phila.
To all those members who stayed vigilant...thank you.
Isnt it ironic that the men who were calling this out and pointing it out, trying to get the message of alert to the members.... Yeah they were called " scumbags" and " anti union" dissenters.
Funny. Those members didnt steal from you
Those members didnt misappropriate funds.
Didnt self deal using members monies
Didnt help finance and elect politicians to be " protection" while on a crime spree.
Didnt take away your vote.
Didnt take away your voice.
Didnt threaten or harass you for not " getting on board"
No. Those members merely stood up for what was right and called bullshit on this man.
Spencer. Capelli. McCarron. Waterkotte. Thornhill and the entire " leadership" down to delegates are corrupt and complicit in this scheme.
Every one of them.
Every appointed teacher every admin office worker.
The corruption that SHOULD BE EASY TO FIND is far greater and more far reaching than most understand.
I hope the feds have fully vetted out every lead and every player.
If this is a thorough investigation doug wont be alone in prison.
He can spend the rest of his days with these people.
In this case it might require a new prison as there are soooo sooo many.
We havent even gotten to the politicians yet. Thats next.
We are every where.
We will not stop.
There is no quarter or mercy.
Let's hear the facts on this subpoena so we can spread the word !
ReplyDeletebilly spoules were you interviewing for a new job at your golfouting in vegas because when the merger goes threw kml to the northatlantic counsel your fatass wont be needed were you applying for your new gig as dougs golfball polisher we all know how you shine the knob I don't think Flynn will be needing you good luck billy boy
ReplyDeleteNot gonna happen. There will be no merger. Its over.
DeleteThe only thing merging will be Bubba the cell mate and McCarrons ass.
Its done. Pay attention. They arw finished. This is only the beginning.
Kml council.
ReplyDeletePhila " turncoats"
You do realize that you are done?
Its over.
You have no legitimate authority.
What respect you had from the koolaide drooling suckasses will disintegrate as they scramble like rats to find their next cheese dispenser.
Its over.
Every one of you lied to the members either directly or by omission.
Its over.
Id be surprised if you show your faces.
Spare us all the damage control you now will be desperately engaging in.
" im one of you"
" we work hard for the membership"
" i was only doing what i was told"
If we could see the corruption.... Then so should you.
Its simple.
Either you were to stupid and naive, in which case you werent qualified, or you were eyes wide open and said screw it because " you had a steady income"
Which one is it?
There is no middle.
Enjoy your golf outing.
They dont have to many of them in federal prison.
How about golf. The whole Philadelphia team representatives are golfing this weekend!!! Must be nice.
ReplyDeleteInstead of McCarran asking members to donate $200 towards his 2020 campaign maybe they could put that $200 towards his legal fees ha ha ha ha. Just a thought.
It must really suck being a representative of the union to now realize that all their jobs are in jeopardy. When we are put in a trustee ship they are all going to go. Not one of our Philadelphia representatives deserves to be where they are at, because they all knew the corruption that Doug McCarran was doing through all these years. Being a yes-man goes to show you that it doesn’t pay off. You guys are here and put in place to protect the members not Doug McCarran which you all failed to protect and do.
Being a yes-man goes to show you that it doesn’t pay off. You guys are here and put in place to protect the members not Doug McCarran which you all failed to protect and do.
Your ride must been nice, driving around an air-conditioned and heated cars, not worrying about when your next paycheck will come in. Welcome to the real world my boys. Good luck on getting back into real life.
Same for l.U.255 every one on the E board needs to be thrown out nothing but appointed scumbags doing nothing for rank and file members.
DeleteHaaaaaaa!! Now you should all keep in mind that the Chief of Ray Brugeras is from NY and will take care of business in Philly!!!!
ReplyDeleteMembers should writer letters supporting the investigation of McCarron.
Randy Thornhill, it looks like you chose the wrong McCarron
ReplyDeleteMcCarran is calling in all favors, running up and down the halls of Congress asking for help, Reminding them of all the $$$$ he has gave them over the years, All to no avail. It worked in the past but no more Douglas
ReplyDeleteso all brothers I have been working on these for a while and I have the evidence now on a few reps hand mcloud and hocker and you can all help out heres how they like reffering there buddys and pals off of one job right to another and their friends like bragging about their ins at the hall so I figured let me try this the union says they were sent out as referrals so I figured what do I have to lose by calling their company and ask if they are hiring and then ask if they ever call the hall to refer men and to my astonishment they say no I have complted a few jobs now with evidence and would like more so far and i am working on other jobs now so rember what they are doing is jumping the out of work list and it is charge worthy
ReplyDeleteOk. Let me try to help you out here.
Delete1. The mix 20/ 20 was a mailer sent to you for 1 purpose.
If you looked at it and read it in full. It was hastily put together and the " credential" part was written by a moron.
If you signed it.... And read the bottom portion... It was a ruse to get you to sign over your cba ( power of attorney) to the the " northeast regional council"
They needed signatures to get a quroum to continue to extract dues from your pay.
Without it.... They had no legal recourse to do so.
So you want to talk about chargeable offenses. Theft.
2. The mix 20/ 20. By their own definition is based on an algorithmic metric to connect the contractors needs to the carpenters credentials.
Ie. Need a rigging certified, welding certified, carpenter that also has osha 30 and solid surface credential.
Soo. There is no " number" on the list.
And this person might full well go out before you even if he was out after you if you dont meet the needs.
We call it carpenter match . com.
Contractor " dating" site lol.
All this is moot.
Contractors do not use mix 20 unless they are out of town. Even then the names that pop up if you call in are cherry picked and sent out.
You are right. It is nepotism.
Keep in mind these same reps and team leaders used to crucify the former regime of the same thing.
Heres to the new boss. Same as the old boss.... But much worse.
Im assuming you must be newish to this rackett?
Let me suggest this. As it is the only real way we allll ever got work.
Develop a contacts list.
The next job you are on... Talk to ppl. Get foremans name and numbers from other outfits on the job. Road guy numbers.
Talk to other carpenters and partners and share contacts.
You will be surprised.
You are own your own now.
There is no representation
There is no vote.
No voice.
No workrules ( which we had a strong set that were basically abolished in the 2 mergers)
There is no human face to identify with at a " hall" or " downtown"
It is impersonal and you are a number. Worker bee.
This IS EXACTLY WHY MERGERS AND LOCAL UNION elimination was bad for the worker carpenter!!
No one listened.
Now that work is starting to peak and slow a bit....now that you cant find work and you find that there isnt support.... Now guys are upset?
The outrage should have been at the 1st hostile merger.
No one listened. Most didnt care bc " they had work"
Unfortunately this is going to get way worse.
Im not criticizing you. Im just laying out where we are headed and are heading.
Id gladly share my contacts with you.
But. Since this new group of misfits is sooo paranoid and retaliate against honest mbrs ... Its hard to know who you are as we all are kinda forced to anonymity. Now thats fucked up and disgraceful in itself.
Good luck.
Out of work list? Nothing but bull shit called every month for a year nothing that's what are leadership is nothing but self serving scumbags.
DeleteRegarding work referrals, before I would try to bring charges you should send a letter via certified mail to the KML EST to request a copy of the work referral rules. That way you can ensure there’s a violation of a written policy before you try and file charges.
ReplyDeleteNortheast Atlantic council. God that’s hilarious. These bozos. Captain Flynn at the wheel. Bye bye. Fat ass Sproule !!!!!!!! You can’t make this shit up. A lot of pride left in this union. Great leader you are Douglass.
ReplyDeleteSubpeonas are good.
ReplyDeleteButttt. Who is subpoenaed and by whom and for what purpose.
Is the prosecution calling them to testify.? Or is it the defense?
If they are being called by the prosecution in sayyy the laufenberg case then thats interesting.
If im a defense attorney... The 1st question im asking is ... Did any of you authorize or direct a payment of 6 million plus dollars to john ballantyne and if so what were the resources? Where did it come from? Where is the accounting entry. If not. Then why did ballantyne walk away from the suit he filed.
See. Spencer. Cappeli. McCarron tried to hide criminal activity by dissolving the nrcc and removing jb.
Ohhhh there are sooo many delightful questions.
Meanwhile. Remember the name tricia mueller?
Carpenters donate 1 million to george norcross pacs from 2 carpenter pacs.
Nothing to see here good citizen carpenter. The fact your hard earned dues monies are being sent to a man who wants to cut your throat. Keep working!!!! Slave worker bees.. No vote. No poll. No voice.
We make the decisions.... As they reach into your wallet and steal from you.
Guess we are alll just wusses.
Hey. Doug all I can say is you threw this bad ass mother out. I bet you did not expect. After all this time he would still be going stronger then ever. What will he do with his time when he takes the three bling mice down. All I can say is to who wrights. Thank you for tireless work and exposing these pos You are the reason this shit is where we’re at. Hey doughy. Have fun in prison. Breslyn can keep sandy warm. Just send her to the Delaware office. !!!!!
DeleteTake a close look at Placid,Jobsite Steel and Level Care and the huge amounts of money diverted from the UBC Members dues to these entity's and you will get an idea. Its not hard to see. Dirty Doug just thought nobody would look. Take a look at the money funneled to the Odoms. Review the millions McCarron put into the Sparks Nevada Jobsite Steel Plant that is now permanently closed. The property alone cost members $7 million. There is so much more and dirty Doug knows exactly what the subpoenas are for.
ReplyDeleteThis is literally the tip of the iceberg. This just open up a huge can of worms believe it or not. This case is going to make JohnDoc‘s case look like a parking ticket.
ReplyDeleteBy the time this is all done there will be so many people charged with crimes that’s going to surprise everybody. Let’s just hope nobody else gets paid off in the process.
After all said and done, this case and the rest that follow should be the better of the brotherhood. Hopefully we get a strong leader in which returns back time and turns this union into a brotherhood in which it was very strong
i hope the feds dont look into. the millions of dollars of fine money. the kml have. its not like they would not steal from that pile of cash. dougs house of cards is falling. its a great day to se some rekoning coming. just hope the list is long for how long we had to wait.
ReplyDeleteYou mean the illegaly extorted mups " fine" or assessment ?
DeleteThe one enacted in jersey in 2006 and then forced down everyone elses throat.
The mups " fine " fund :
That isnt a line item anywhere.
The one that no one knows how much is in it.
Who runs it?
Where is it being held?
What are the accounts receiveable.?
What are the accounts payable?
What is the fund for?
Who are the trustees?
Is it interest bearing?
If so... Who gets that interest and how much?
Sooo basically a slush fund that no one knows what its for.
How much is in it.
And where the money is.
You mean that " fund" ?
Im pretty sure the IRS might want to see that account.
I know i would.
I STILL CANNOT UNDERSTAND HOW MCCARRAN CAN BE DRAWING HIS PENSION AND STILL WORKING WILL SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME? US ATTORNEY WILL YOU PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS MATTER THANK YOU
ReplyDeleteAsk laufenberg. He was doing the same thing.... Ohhh wait. Hes under indictment.
Deleteapparently it all comes down to what the local or regional council pension rules say. take stl-kc-crc, nelson set up the pension fund to allow pension draws to start at 55. he was then able to work as est and draw his pension. 2nd & 3rd pensions are then available at later dates.
Deletemcmorron has provided the right politicians with enough money to get multiple fed judges to rule that the union can interpret its constitution as it sees fit. that allows mccarron to say that a local or regional pension isn’t a ubc pension.
however, when he needs to oust a dissident, he can tell the dol & olms that the opposite is true. this happened in new mexico. i foia’d the olms case files. not surprisingly, there is barely anything given to olms from the ubc. it was enough for olms to rule against the member holding ofc though. a 1300+ page file ended up being about 300 pages for me. why would 1000 or so pages be redacted? its a union election, not someone’s medical file. the political money is why! these guys own even the dol in certain districts.
est mtgs are nothing more than six figure parties for dimwit doug’s hand-picked minions. the dol & fbi will eventually take down the scams, they’re exactly like whats going on over at the uaw. the sad part is a significant amount of the councils operate the same scam, just on a smaller level, and with more individuals participating.
i’ve been fighting stl-kc-crc in court for over 5 years. all over illegal activities dating back to the days of nelson. mccarron has turned a blind eye to fraud here, just like he is doing in new jersey and new york.
est bond entered a sworn affidavit that mccarron removed terry davis in kc because of alleged fraud. the ubc and stl-kc-crc didn’t sell the merger in the same way. publicly it was just a combination of resources to better service the membership. hahaha!
mergers are nothing more than power consolidation by mccarron. he basically gets to hand pick a successor. the new est gets an enormous raise (bond made $165k as assistances est, now he!’s pulling down $275k plus). the appointed est’s owe mccarron so they will do his bidding and then provide block voting at the gen convention. jon g
apparently it all comes down to what the local or regional council pension rules say. take stl-kc-crc, nelson set up the pension fund to allow pension draws to start at 55. he was then able to work as est and draw his pension. 2nd & 3rd pensions are then available at later dates.
Deletemcmorron has provided the right politicians with enough money to get multiple fed judges to rule that the union can interpret its constitution as it sees fit. that allows mccarron to say that a local or regional pension isn’t a ubc pension.
however, when he needs to oust a dissident, he can tell the dol & olms that the opposite is true. this happened in new mexico. i foia’d the olms case files. not surprisingly, there is barely anything given to olms from the ubc. it was enough for olms to rule against the member holding ofc though. a 1300+ page file ended up being about 300 pages for me. why would 1000 or so pages be redacted? its a union election, not someone’s medical file. the political money is why! these guys own even the dol in certain districts.
est mtgs are nothing more than six figure parties for dimwit doug’s hand-picked minions. the dol & fbi will eventually take down the scams, they’re exactly like whats going on over at the uaw. the sad part is a significant amount of the councils operate the same scam, just on a smaller level, and with more individuals participating.
i’ve been fighting stl-kc-crc in court for over 5 years. all over illegal activities dating back to the days of nelson. mccarron has turned a blind eye to fraud here, just like he is doing in new jersey and new york.
est bond entered a sworn affidavit that mccarron removed terry davis in kc because of alleged fraud. the ubc and stl-kc-crc didn’t sell the merger in the same way. publicly it was just a combination of resources to better service the membership. hahaha!
mergers are nothing more than power consolidation by mccarron. he basically gets to hand pick a successor. the new est gets an enormous raise (bond made $165k as assistances est, now he!’s pulling down $275k plus). the appointed est’s owe mccarron so they will do his bidding and then provide block voting at the gen convention. jon g
https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2019/11/19/carpenters-union-hit-with-new-grand-jury-subpoenas-1228135
ReplyDeleteJimmy Hocker.
ReplyDeleteWhats your alibi?
" just following orders?"
All good.
So. Even though those orders were to lie. Lie. Lie. Lie. Than cover the lie with veiled threat and more lies .....
You. More than all of these filthy thieving pricks should suffer more than all of them.
You stole trust.
Money can be replaced. Integrity and trust cant be.
Are you looking for a new home? Perhaps very very very far away from here?
If i were you. Id pack up and move and find a fresh start.
McDonalds in San Fran is hiring.
You can " follow orders" riiight?
why is everone getting on hocker im a friend of his and this guy is and was a Coryell man 100 percent threw he already knows these guys are bafoons he cant beilive he works for these idiots he is just trying to get his time in his pinched with these guys he knows it a shame union but he cant lose his job for his family so its head down and assup and push forward cut him a break already he is not a bad union guy you guys kill him around here and its not deserved I got your back buddy
ReplyDeleteThe guy supporting hocker because " he knows they are buffoons "
DeleteHes just " putting his time in"
" for his family"
This. !!! This is exactly why we are where we are.
Welcome to the " new union"
Lay down. Take it in the ass. Go along even if its wrong.
What a disgrace.
Wow!!
DeleteThis isnt about being an " eddie" guy or " being anyones guy"
Its about BEING YOUR OWN MAN.
Hocker should have never been appointed in the 1st place.
He cant put a cogent sentence together or speak publicly with conviction or purpose.
His appointment WAS BECAUSE HE WAS SOMEONES GUY!!!
Nepotism.
Its called self preservation. I get it.
Unfortunately .. There are 1000s of people affected by his self preservation.
You mr hocker supporter:
Have no vote.
You have no voice.
You are being extorted and coerced by an unethically presented MUPS.
You had your pension changed without a voice.
You had your hc changed without a voice
Your vacation plan. Changed without a voice.
Your 401k changed without a voice.
You have not elected a delegate in 7 years. No voice.
You have not had a rank and file voice on a contract negotiation for 4 years.
Your work rules that protected YOUR ability to defend your wages and money have been taken . without a voice.
Your stewards who were appointed and PROTECTED on jobs.... To protect YOU have been " nullified"
They are no longer protected.... Neither are YOU.
Every decision made has been in the " unions" favor and not the " union working member rank and file"
Find 1 that truly was to your benefit that isnt " fluff"
To support and go along with this because you are to scared to lose or walk away from your job.... That you werent qualified for or competent enough to fill in the 1st place?
What evs.
A man with integrity would step down and not support the criminal activity.
ReplyDeleteWe all have families.
I appreciate your dedication and support of hocker.
Guess what.
We all make choices. We have all altered our decisions and sometimes sacrificed ... Its called integrity.
Its called being honorable.
I get your point.
Let me ask you this.
When the good and decent guy german soldier was told to put a gun to the back of an innocent jews head and kill him. Did he know it was criminal? Did he " disagree" but went along anyway because " he had a family?" Unfortunately the answer is yes.
I realize its an extreme comparison.
Conceptually it is the same.
Human nature never changes.
Hocker has zero integrity. Zero honor. And zerrrrrrooooo desire to walk away and work in another capacity instead of being complicit.
So kudos to you for your support.
Your ability to judge character might need some improvement.
I get it but my point is he already admitted sproules and hand are idiots but he is stuck how would he not after seing how old man Coryell made us an unstoppable force and the joke we are now he already said the little bit of work the reps do the old man of fired them hand and sproues are never in the office sproules is either bating golfing of flying on an airplane to blow macaroon he said its a fucking joke what going on all im saying is he knows its wrong
ReplyDeleteYou proved the other 3 respondents EXACT point.
DeleteHypocritical self serving coward.
1st. I would be extremely careful in speaking " for hocker" . 3rd party hearsay.
DeleteIf he has something to say... Let him say it.
2nd " you are only stuck" in a decision when you are to cowardly to look at the other option ..... And NOT choose it because its " harder" .
Being " stuck" is a lame excuse.
Hocker knowingly went along with these shitbags. Hocker also put down or " attacked" allll of us who stood up and raised concerns and called this what it is.
They had their chance. Hocker was given a chance.
The fact that a group of us took it further...and hugely helped prompt investigations and soon indictments.... Put our necks on the line... And now shits going south and jimmy , who fulll well knew what was going on, and took the promotions and perks... Who attended both retirement party weekends for Silas and Banes, who , appointed his friends jobs ( maybe you)... And NOW, shit is getting heavy and people are going to jail he wants to cry ... He was " stuck" ...
Sorry bro. Cant support you on this.
I agree with the last couple of writers. All the E board members including the representatives that are on staff now no have no balls. They are put in place to protect the members not themselves. Let me repeat that not them selves. I would respect a representative or a board member more if they would resign knowing that they resigned with intentions to protect the members.
ReplyDeleteEveryone who is on staff now is only there for their self interests. They could care less about the members! That is the whole carpenters motto nowadays everyone for themselves. No unity or brotherhood whatsoever.
So let’s comment on Hocker, Hand, and the rest of the representatives. If you think they have our back you are nuts.
let me just state I get your point but how many members are really calling their bullshit out there are 44000 members in kml so you tell me how many members are telling the kml that there fucking us but you want my buddy hocker to do it when 44000 are not so I get your point if hocker would stand up but as far as calling him out on it how many members are doing have you told the union your name and your out to get them why not retaliation maybe so why should hocker be the first guy to stand up for the members
ReplyDeleteThe Representatives are 2/3 of the way to the stand back and watch hat trick. The dissolution of the MRC into the NERCC. The 2 year dissolution of the NERCC after Ballantyne blew the whistle. That move is proof that they couldn’t handle jobs at Home Depot because smart people would have bought him off before he fired Laufenberg and they fired him bringing forth his lawsuit. After all this in 4 short years that brought lots of changes to healthcare plans, savings plans, a plan b pension fund and a contract that doesn’t really benefit the men. Now after these 4 short years where investigations are now out in the open and subpoenas are going to go out we’ll get to see who sells out for the hat trick at the expense of of their appointed job and maybe who walks away to save their dignity and soul because the people at the top aren’t worried about anyone but themselves and that includes all of the appointed Representatives.
ReplyDeleteContractor friendly. 70% .
DeleteSelling books and bringing in the non union scab like work practices. ( running like assholes, cutting trim on the floor on their knees, 90% of them are clueless as to code or common practices?)
2 things are happening.
1. The quality is in freefall
2. Injury and fatality is rising.
They are directly related.
This is no longer a career with a potential retirement with dignity and all your digits.
Refusing to work with unsafe scab partners ( for your own safety) gets you laid off.
They keep the fools. The call backs go through the roof. The punch lists are now 15000 page novels.
And contractor bitches that " union help" is costing them money?
Go fuck yourselves.
You are your own worst enemy.
Hocker shouldn’t be singled out for scorn, one for one and one for all!!
ReplyDeleteYou are obviously new here. Reread ALLLLL THE THTEADS. Hocker isnt singled out.
DeleteThere are 4 years worth of comments.
I don’t think Hocker should be signaled out at all I think the bigger waste of money is mike hand asst. est. running around golfing all the time he’s got one hand on Sproule a club and the other on Dougs. What this union is becoming.
ReplyDeleteMy point was to reiterate that if one Rep is subject to scorn then they all are. I only focused on what’s recent because that’s most relevant.
ReplyDeleteRelevance. ?
ReplyDeleteJR is the " team leader" .
Relevance?
Its called accountability.
You want to be the " leader", then with that comes the responsibility.
He knowingly accepted the promotions , the raises, the " power".
The moment EVERY representative signed the " at will" employment papers, thus no longer under our collective bargaining agreement, was the conscious moment of no longer representing members because they no longer live by the same cba.
I could lay out the complete list of sell outs and lies and omissions but there arent enough characters on this blog.
So. To think that the " leader" should be exempt from accountability is ludicrous.
This aint about your " feels" and " snowflake" sentiments.
Leadership has been lying to the men since before the first merger. It was happening, it wasn’t happening then all the sudden it happened. Our leadership has tried to appeal to us as if they’re still one of us and can and will put their tools back on at a moments notice if they were told to. That’s not in any realm of possibility because for 4 years they’ve talked about moving forward, extending olive branches and building a bigger and better Union than what was dismantled. There’s been no honesty or transparency and that only hurts the men and women who make this union go. The quote should be By the Men and Women for the Men and Women because Reps are handpicked for a reason and they always have been. Nepotism helped get us here!
ReplyDeleteTime = relevance. Relax I’m not excusing anything or anyone.
ReplyDeleteIt's the same thing that happened when they merged the locals into nrccb255 no one was happy about it.the entire E board appointed flunkeys who do nothing for rank and file Carpenters time to throw all of them out.
ReplyDeleteHot off the press Mupp opportunity. Leaf clean up at billy Sproule s McMansion In May’s landing. And you also get one if you can tell him if his shoes are tied. He has not seen them in a while !!!!!
ReplyDeleteMups as a coercive tool will soon be done.
DeleteStep 2 will be recovering the monies.
Watch the rats scurry. Heinemann is about to get tko d.
Leaf cleaning and telling Billy he’s a chubby vs political coercion.....hmmmm. Can I opt for neither??
ReplyDeleteAre current Council Reps paying LU Union Dues Assessments? Next question, has the name of the KML Council been changed?
ReplyDeleteAnother example.
ReplyDeleteThey know you guys dont stop and do the math.
They also know they can rile you up,,,,BECAUSE you dont do the math.
Sproules latest interview has him crying about virginia being a right to work state.
He states how important it is to the union to be organized.
Again. Part of the truth.
He says va carpenters are making 3% less.
Ok.
Lets do the math.
Based on philly rate.
1916 a week. Times 3% reduction is about 57 dollars a week.
Butttttttt. Since they have opted NOT TO PAY DUES = 114 A WEEK.
Sooo yes. The union is suffering.... But not the worker.
Kml represents va carpenters.
Most have opted out of dues.
Why. Because they get the same representation we do. Which is none.
Do the math.
Almost 6% in dues.
Who is stealing us blind?
Not the frigging people who sign the checks.
These parasites are crying.
Mike hand will retire with a monthly pemsion almost 5x yours.
Hand currently makes over 6x your avg salary ( per dol) 55868 yr.
Hand is in the 300k.
Why?
He cant breathe properly unless someone reminds him to inhale and exhale.
Yet. They were appointed and closed the door on all of us.
Gfy.
Hand is followed on his activities now So he will be spending a lot of time Peking out the blinds now. This shit has gone to far. There was a time when hand was paranoid not no more Mikey has a reason to be on the lookout. Corruption can only go on when members turn a blind eye. The time for being silent is over. Good luck hand. Your going down with the rest of them Everyman for himself when the feds start inditments. I’m sure fats as Sproule won’t sent them your way. Team dougy !!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteNext time there’s an opportunity to apply for a Council Rep position I’m going for it!!! Where else can you work two hours a day but get paid for 9, gain a 2nd pension, enjoy sick time, vacation, and personal time off, use a member provided credit card to buy breakfast, lunch and dinner, travel to Vegas to party at least once every three months on the members dime, golf 9 months out of the year at the members expense, take care of personal business during work hours, have sex with the Secretary when I want, never touch the tools again, never be held accountable for being a stiff, and all the while ignoring the members who pay for everything!!!
ReplyDeleteUnited States Congress?
DeleteThe Senate?
Hey. Merry Christmas to all.
ReplyDeleteBuckle up.
Contract is coming up this May.
Remember ... 2 scumbags basically wrote this without member input and were told what to do.
Mike Hand. Rob Naughton.
This is their contract.
Who wants to wager....that the new apprentice requirements are in this years.... And the new provisional rate carpenter is in next years.
Any takers?
Time, attrition, apathy, and alienation.
You boys willlll love the 10 to 18 years ( in a steady work environ) of the lessor rate. So much so that you wont even remember there was a higher rate with better benes.
They count on you forgetting.
They count on you rolling over once again as you have for years.
Enjoy it lads. No lube.
In case no one noticed.
ReplyDeleteWe are no longer KML.
We are now Eastern Atlantic States Council.
They keep changing the name to continue to muddy the water for the crimes.
Its all good.
We have every document and access to all.
I should post the documents on the broad street ghost employees.
Ooooopssss. How did someone get them!!!!!
We Are Everywhere.
Name change??? I’m sure the average member, contractor, or anyone else really cares that Council has changed its name!!
DeleteHas anyone requested copies of all the financial records that the recent LM reports were based on? I hear that there is gold to be mined in them thar records!!!
Yes. I have the lm2s.
DeleteIts a sham.
Apparently the ballantyne buyout isnt " available" until 2020.
Wtf!!!
There is no line item for a mups revenue.
Ground work strategies ( our money laundering pr / advisor got 28k a month for the year of 2018. To do what?
Conner Strong ( george norcross insurance underwriter) received a shitttt load of money.
The pacs we contributed to are astronomical.
Decarlo and Shanley ( mccarrons legal team received over 4 million dollars in fees.
I will see if i can post the pdf here for you to read yourself.
Something doesnt add up and in my opinion its a fake lm2.
I have the LM2’s for the UBC and the Council, if you could post Page No.’s and Section No.’s of hot items to review, that would be more than helpful.
DeleteRegarding some of those expenditures you mentioned, especially Groundwork’s, I would love to know what they got did for our hard earned money too!! I’m sure for $30,000 a month it’s really great service!!!
On page one.
ReplyDeleteScroll down
Under the sub heading of investments.
Placid investors llc 69 million plus dollars.
What and who the feck is that?
If you look up placid investors llc.
ReplyDeleteIts
Principal owners are
Doug McCarron
Andrew Silis
Newkirk
Welch.
They got 69 million dollars from the ubc.
They were the parent company of jobsite steel ( which is defunct in status) but as of 4 /19 mccarron and cronies have 69 million dollars of our monies.
They even have shares to sell.
Why arent the fbi raiding their offices and holdings?
Why is this allowed to continue.
By “Welch” do you mean Welsh from Pittsburgh?
DeleteI want a federal irs agent or fbi agent that may be reading this , to explain to me :
ReplyDelete( i cant post the document but maybe the site admin can)
But.
Reading the 2018 lm2.
Scrolling down to investments.
101 Constitution Trust.
210 million dollars.
This is a trust company that doug mccarron is the president of.
They recieved " rent" monies from the ubc on a bldg we ALREADY OWNED.
How is this legal?
How is this not self dealing?
Investment number 2.
Placid Investors Llc.
( for those reading this.
Google placid investors llc out of nevada. )
It gives you exactly who the parties are that are this company.
Surprise.
Doug McCarron is president of this " company"
Which is the parent company of jobsite steel.
Who also received 69 million dollars from the ubc ( on the lm2)
For what?
Jobsite steel is registered as inactive.
But. For allll my brethren in the philadelphia area.
Look carefully at the date of when this company was " founded"
Wowwww. Its right about the time they stole our assests and merged us !!!
Soo. Im a simple man.
Let me see if i have this straight.
Mccarron, silis, banes, newkirk , welch.... Open a company using carpenter member funds.
Invest in jobsite steel which is defunct. And stillll receive 69 mill a year FROM CARPENTERS funds to a " company" owned by the gen pres of the carpenters
With absolutely no return of investment...no vote...using members monies to invest and making money off of members monies.
Ummmm. Jimmy Hoffa was killed for this. ( not a threat just stating history)
I have only begun to dissect these expenditures.
I am only a " carpenter" and have already opened up rackettering.
Wait till we get to the political pacs.
Any other ppl interested?
Moorestown nj.
500000 dollars to this pac.
Whoooo controlled this pac?
Whyyyy looookeeee here. Tricia Mueller!!! For George Norcross.
Who also shows up on the lm2 as groundwork strategies and connor strong ( respectively)
Groundworks ( tricia mueller received over 240k dollars in 2018.
And looookeee lookeee. Who is our insurance underwriter? Why imagine that. Connor Strong. Norcross.
Come on. What agency handles this?
Any of you?
I want you to show me how this is legal. The 1st 2.
All the documents you mention are already on this site.Do a search
ReplyDeleteYou are correct. I remember when you posted them.
DeleteI was being lazy.
Well. The placid llc is right there in plain sight.
You have been on this for a while.
I didnt think theyd be that stupid to put it right there in plain sight.
Now. Its a tedious search. Goibg through EVERY line item.
Thanks for the leads.
No it means Robert Welch who is listed on the International LM2 as an executive assistant
ReplyDeleteOk, I wasn’t sure if that was a miss spelling. Next question: As directors and managers of this holding company, Placid, what is the compensation package, or is time served managing this company all volunteered, free of charge, on behalf of the members?
ReplyDeleteUp until March 2019 the Chief Financial Officer for Placid was Michael Brim. Seems he is now gone. I think around March 2019 was when the UBC membership got screwed with the Sparks Nevada "Jobsite Steal" Factory. Maybe they blamed Brim for the McCarron disaster that cost members millions.He was being paid close to $500,000...Also for whomever is listing the money diverted from the UBC to Placid..Placid was created in 2011 and was not a renaming of the dummy company Jobsite Steel Corp. McCarron falsely told the IRS Jobsite Steel Corp manufactured Steel Products in Vegas. Jobsite Steel Corp(2011) and Jobsite Steel(2014) Lenoir Tenn were two separate entity's.Read the 2014 audit for Jobsite Corp. No mention of steel products manufacture.Yet McCarron moved $36 million into it in 2014.Only hotel revenue McCarron started moving UBC funds into Placid in 2015..Total. $66 million..Yet no audit submitted to the IRS for placid for 2015.They did not submit an audit for Placid until 2017.No audit for Jobsite Steel Corp for 2015 either.
ReplyDeleteIn 2017 McCarron has $79 million in Placid and so on.
That 2015 date of moving ubc funds is interesting because thats when they raided phila.
ReplyDelete2.6 billion ( est) in assets were then in his hands.
We already know cappeli tried to steal 6million of individual locals monies as it was riiiight on the 990.
108 mill. Magically became 102 mill. And cappelis budget went from 500k to 6.5 mill.
He has since " returned" the monies except for like a million.
It was still attempted theft.
And like everything else.... No accountability.
Its god damn sickening.
You have to sue officers in the alphabet agencies to do their jobs.
This is cut and dry.
I was focusing on the 2015 date.
ReplyDeleteWhere actual ubc money was committed.
Im willing to bet that was MRCC money.
Soooo. We changed names again.
More evidence the kml name change was not the original plan but a hastily effected change to hide crimes.
How much money was spent to promote kml again.
Videos. You tube videos. Mailers.
A wholeeee 5 colored magazine ( the only one we ever got which was all a ruse to say they informed members of their " beck rights" )
These lawyers and leadership are truly corrupt scumbags.
I agree with the previous post about hoffa.
Im amazed it hasnt happened.
( a historical fact of course and not a threat)
So McCarron and his UBC officers authorised the transfer of funds into this Placid Co. which was used to own Job Site Steel, a company that manufactured metal construction products, Jobsite has failed to be successful and our member dues money is gone?
ReplyDeleteUmmmmm.... Yeah.
DeleteMcCarron has through coercion, blackmail, intimidation, rigging, and other means.... Been changing the constitution incrementally for 20 years to give him the autonomous power to unilaterally decide " what is for the good of the order"
It alllll started when he took away our right to vote for agents and organizers and lied to the then ests to include coryell who trusted this black snake.
The carpenters union exists for the purpose of representing carpenter workers, not for the purpose of owning or funding construction companies
ReplyDeleteCorrect.
DeleteAnd in fact the jobsite steel venture actually REDUCED manhours.
There are soo many questions.
Like.
Placid Ventures and Placid Investors, camden waterfront redevelopment, steve sweeney and ironworkers, donald norcross and philip norcross and ibew , george norcross and prescription companies like express scripts, and laufenberg slated to become head of the prescription and pharmacy fund, and nrcc becoming kml ( because they needed to hide their criminal activity) when allll along it was to be the eastern atlantic states.
4 " mergers or names in 5 years?
Troy singleton being " installed" in camden as a senator, subpeonas to mccarron, 500k from carpenter pac east coast and 500k more from south west pac to new jersey pac of george norcross to possibly " buy" political favor in the grand juries.... We havent even stepped into phila yet.
Lets face it. The corruption is staggering and widespread.
Its almost all in plain sight.
We are being used as pawns while our livlihood is being taken, and cheapened.
At this point. I would steer anyyyy young trade seeking kid to almost any union other than the carpenters.
You know how much that sucks to feel that way?
Burn it allll down.
They no longer deserve your labor , your dues, your committment.
They walked away from us.
At this months meeting 12-10 2019 the bogus pres. of 255 briefly announced the name change stressing all will be the same.Nothing but puppets.Time to end this scam....
ReplyDeleteAll will be the same.
DeleteI guess in a warped way he spoke the truth.... Im sure by " accident"
All will be the same.
You will continue to have no vote. No voice. No say.
You will continue to be fleeced weekly and receive the SAME representation... Which is none.
Yep. And allll the other corruption will stay the same .... But if unchecked.. It will get even more bold.
I mean its not like its bold to file an lm2 with your private company as the recipient of union funds that you direct ... Invested into your private company ... And lying to the IRS that its a necessary expense to " create jobs for the union you represent"
When the IRS finally realizes theyve been duped 4 times by an intellectual chimp... Ya think they are going to go scorched earth? Or play nice?
Asking for a friend.
scorched earth! this will make the uaw fiasco look like childs’ play
ReplyDeletejobsite steel posted two projects on linkedin that are nearly complete. thanks to their fabricated wall panels. one project is in houston, texas; they even thank odom construction services for installing the light gauge metal panels. the other post mentions juneau construction performing the installation for a new star metals facility in atlanta, georgia. jobsite steel posted both updates in the last two days. prior to yesterday, their profile contained no posts!!
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