HEY WEE WITTLE BILLY SPROULE IF YOU DO NOT LIKE IT YOU CAN “GO WORK NON UNION”
THE NEXT TIME SOME UBC LOUD MOUTH PUNK TELLS YOU THAT “YOU WILL OR ELSE”. TELL THEM TO KISS YOUR ASS
RATHER THAN FACE AN NLRB JUDGE THE UBC AND THEIR LEGAL HACK RAY HINEYMAN SETTLED ON ALL CHARGES
ROY ERNST DEDICATED 2 YEARS OF HIS LIFE IN A FIGHT TO END THE UBC EXTORTION OF HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS.DESPITE FIGHTING AN NLRB THAT FOUGHT HIM THE ENTIRE WAY AND REFUSED TO DO THEIR JOBS ROY ERNST FORCED THEM.DESPITE DEALING WITH UNION LEGAL HACKS WHO STALLED,LIED TO JUDGES AND NLRB LAWYERS AS WELL AS ATTEMPTED TO INTIMIDATE WITNESSES ROY ERNST PREVAILED.
MAKE NO MISTAKE.THE NLRB ARE STILL WHORES FOR THE UNIONS AND REFUSE TO HONOR THEIR MISSION TO PROTECT WORKERS. INSTEAD THEY HAVE SOLD THE NLRB TO UNION CRIMINAL SYNDICATES AND ACT TO FORCE UNIONS ON ALL WORKERS AND WORK TO GET UNIONS A CUT OF THE ACTION.
AS THEY DID HERE THEY DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO PREVENT CHARGES FROM BEING FILED AGAINST THEIR UNION PALS. WHEN THEY ARE FORCED TO FILE THE CHARGES, WHICH IN THIS CASE HAD TO BE FORCED ON THE REGIONAL OFFICE BY THE DIVISION OF ADVICE,THEY COERCE THE CHARGING PARTY TO SIGN A SETTLEMENT THAT IS FAVORABLE TO THE UNION
ASK YOURSELF HOW IN GODS NAME IT COULD POSSIBLY TAKE THE NLRB 2 YEARS STOP A UNION CRIMINAL SYNDICATE FROM ROBBING ITS OWN MEMBERS.
ASK THE NLRB WHY IT REUSED TAKE THE STEPS TO END THIS EXTORTION IN ALL UBC COUNCILS NATIONWIDE WHEN THEY HAD THE CHANCE IN THIS CASE. WHY ARE THEY FORCING MEMBERS TO FILE MORE CHARGES IN THE HOPE THEY CAN DETER THEM AND REFUSE TO FILE THE CHARGES.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW AND WHY IT TOOK TWO YEARS OR JOIN IN EXPOSING THE NLRB JUST ASK AND WE WILL SHARE THE INFORMATION.
DESPITE THEIR BLATANT LIES TO THE CONTRARY:
(1)THE UBC IMPOSED FINES ON UBC MEMBERS TO FORCE THEM NOT TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS UNDER THE NATIONAL LABOR RELATIONS ACT.
(2)THEY TRIED TO FALSELY DECLARE THE FINES "ASSESSMENTS" AND THEN TRIED TO HIDE BEHIND THE WORD.
(3)THEY THEN REFUSED TO ACCEPT MEMBERS WINDOW DUES UNLESS THEY PAID THE ILLEGAL MUPS FINES. AFTER 3 MONTHS MEMBERS WERE DECLARED NOT IN GOOD STANDING AND AFTER 6 MONTHS REMOVED FROM THE MASTER MEMBERSHIP LIST
(4) EVEN THOUGH SOME MEMBERS WINDOW DUES WERE PAID A YEAR IN ADVANCE AFTER 3 MONTHS THESE MEMBERS WERE ALSO DECLARED NOT IN GOOD STANDING AND AFTER 6 MONTHS REMOVED FROM THE MASTER MEMBERSHIP LIST FOR NOT PAYING THE MUPS FINES
(5) THESE UBC RATS THEN WENT TO THE UBC MEMBERS EMPLOYER AND DEMANDED THE EMPLOYER REMOVE THE MEMBER FROM THE JOB AND THE COMPANY PAYROLL UNLESS THE MEMBER PAID THE MUPP FINES,ANY DUES THESE RATS REFUSED TO LET THE MEMBER PAY AND FORCED THEM TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL YEARS DUES IN ADVANCE.(UBC LEGAL HACK BRIAN "BABY" QUINN LIED TO A JUDGE AND THE NLRB AND DECLARED THIS NEVER HAPPENED)
(6) WHEN QUESTIONED ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING UBC PUNK BILLY SPROULE TOLD MEMBER ROY ERNST TO DO AS HE WAS TOLD AND IF HE DID LIKE IT HE COULD GO WORK NON UNION.HE ALSO DECLARED THAT "NLRB DECISIONS MEAN NOTHING".
(7)THE UBC INTERNATIONAL HAND PICKED STOOGE AND EASTERN REP DAN CHRISTIE DECLARED FROM THE PODIUM AT A DELEGATES CONVENTION THAT "THE COUNCIL WAS GOING TO WIN ALL THE CHARGES" AND THAT MEMBER ROY ERNST "DID NOT DESERVE THEIR REPRESENTATION" BECAUSE HE REFUSED TO BE EXTORTED
BROTHER ERSNT WORKED FOR TWO YEARS TO STOP HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS FROM BEING EXTORTED.WITH THE HELP OF OTHER MEMBERS THAT STOOD UP AND STILL OTHERS THAT CAME FORWARD AS WITNESSES TO THE EXTORTION HE HAS ENDED THE MUPS EXTORTION AT THE EASTERN ATLANTIC COUNCIL.
THIS EXTORTION PROGRAM IS NOT UNIQUE TO THE KEYSTONE COUNCIL CROOKS
THE UBC CROOKS AT THE NYC DISTRICT COUNCIL TRIED THE SAME EXTORTION EVEN GOING AS FAR AS TO HOLD UBC MEMBERS VACATION CHECKS HOSTAGE TO FORCE THEM TO PAY THE BS MUPS FINES. THEY HAD TO BE STOPPED BY THE FEDERAL DISTRICT COURTS CONSENT JUDGE
MEMBER ROY ERNST DID A GREAT SERVICE FOR ALL UBC MEMBERS BUT I DOUBT HE WOULD LET YOU THANK HIM. HE SIMPLY BELIEVED IN RIGHT AND WRONG AND REFUSED TO BE EXTORTED.HE WORKED HARD TO STOP HIS BROTHERS AND SISTERS FROM BEING EXTORTED. HE REFUSED TO LET SOME UBC PUNK LIKE SPROULE RUN HIS MOUTH AND DISRESPECT A UBC MEMBER WITHOUT PAYING THE PRICE
ANY UBC MEMBERS WHO ARE STILL BEING EXTORTED BY UBC MUPS PROGRAMS. AND ARE INTERESTED IN FOLLOWING ROY ERNSTS EXAMPLE OF STANDING UP FOR YOURSELF AND YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS REACH OUT. IF YOU NEED HELP WITH THE PROCESS OR DOCUMENTATION REACH OUT.
ANY MEMBERS WHO LOST WORK AND WAGES DUE TO THE MUPS EXTORTION AND THE ACTIONS OF THE UBC RATS REACH OUT AS A LAW SUIT IS BEING PURSUED
ANY UBC MEMBERS WHO WANT TO JOIN IN THE EFFORT TO FORCE THE UBC TO SHOW THE FEDS WHERE THE MUPS MONEY WENT REACH OUT
121 comments:
GREAT NEWS!!! Great work Roy and THANK YOU!!!!
Ohhhh Troy, could you possibly help us and the Federal Government find the MUPP dollars???? Yes, yes you can......
Thank you brother Roy. I am reaching out to and in the process with some other members in seeking returning money that I lost do to losing hours from doing MUPPS. We as a Brotherhood should not let this from happening again.
Again thank you Roy Ernst 🔨🇺🇸🔨
The next scam is the ucann program that will have about 4 million a year getting dumped into it to replace the money they stole with the " assesments" . Tomorrow the delagates vote it in to the council bylaws. Thanks Roy
Local 253 Kevin Goodsir this be a good time to suck up to Dan Christy and remind him what a great guy you are. Perhaps he can get you made before he’s out.
Here’s a fun fact everyone when you participate for a VOC event. Pictures are being taken did you sign a release....why you ask....well your good deeds show up on Kevin’s Facebook page he then also links that with his political endeavors in West Milford. See Kevin is a good guy after all and yes it amazing he became a Trustee with all that has happened.
If your comfortable with being his tool are you comfortable with your anonymity at the carpenters care recovery meetings.
How can I get reimbursed?
What am I supposed to do now if they did these acts to me already and my family and I have been tortued by them?
great job its hard to believe strolled huge ego woke a sleeping giant. I guess he wishes that phone call back does Doug know all of this could of been avoided if he did not talk to a 30 year member like he was an apprentice. I'm sure the union checked the guys track record 30 years and no fines or charges against the union. wow was it something he did or something billy sprolles did. my guess this is all billy ego you picked the wrong guy this time my man. I've known you a long time bill and you got away with this behavior a long time and you are still disrespecting the reps that work for you I know there's another loss coming your way when Verrelli gets done with you. maybe then Spencer will find you another job you can be placed in maybe the bartender at all the golf outings your running on the members money or hotel maid at the hotels the members are paying for. but don't worry he will find somewhere for you because we all know you can't make it on getting your own job
Spencer is behind him Spencer his wife and niece and Lil spezialli, Franny his brother in law and of course ms wonderful Tricia all have to go.
hey feds go after ilegal mupp fines into the slushfund. extortion at its finest
Where’s the money ray. ??????
New deduction from members gross wages: Members Assistance Program (MAP) = $0.10 per every hour worked. What’s this equal to in dollars and cents??? If it’s true that that there are 40,000 members of the EAS council, and let’s say they all worked only 1,000 hours per year at $0.10 deducted for their wages then that would equal $4,000,000 dollars a year collected without the approval of one single member!!!! Take note employers, you are being made an accessory to wage theft!!!! (40,000 members x 1,000 hrs worked per year = 40,000,000 man hours x $0.10 per hour = $4,000,000 dollars STOLEN)
Happy New Year........
What EXACTLY was the mups fund?
Who was in charge of it?
Where was it ?
Who were the trustees?
How much was in the fund from 2012 to 2015?
How much was in the fund as of july 2020?
How were receipts tracked ( they werent)
Who received payments from this fund? Receipts?
Vote on payment?
Minutes?
Was this fund interest bearing?
Who received the interest?
Accounting?
Where is the dochmentation?
Was there EVER any activity, outing, hotel bookings, rental cars, council credit cards, ipads, restaurants, bar tabs, or ANY OTHEE ACTIVITY paid from this account?
Where is it listed in toto on an lm2?
This is alllll IRS.
All of this also falls under RICO.
2 or more people conspired to use power influence and position to leverage activities that directly benefitted them personally.
Racketeering.
Extortion ( proved)
See. The NRLB will only rule on issues within their purview.
Even if racketeering and fraud are blatant... That agency can only settle what the charges are under their authority.
Every question listed above can be reported to the IRS anonymously.
I know for a fact there are 2.
Anyone wanting to help ... Can file. More ppl the more fire.
Be specific.
Northeast Regional Council of Carpenters Nj.
2012 to 2015.
Then Kml carpenters.
Then finally
EASCC.
There are a lot of details there.
Let them audit.
You just need to ask the questions.
Next up will be the tax fraud as a direct result of " nrcc policy"
This is far from over.
Moving on to the RICO and criminal phase now.
Thank you Roy.
You created precedent and exposed the fraud.... The dam is going to break.
Sproulles. You should resign now.
This is far from over.
Mike Hand.
JR Hocker
Mike Campbell.
Tommy Dougherty.
Buckle up boyos.
I was told by the hall to pay someone cash and they would do my MUP for me. Now they take more money out of my check in the MAP and I did not agree to this or even know how long its been going on.
Call local 253 Delegates Dave Laggas all information on website. He’s available to take your money and stand on line Brother.
David Lagas
Delegate
(973) 600-7777
Since May 1st of 2020.
Dave you should go support the line in Jersey City you could probably in your infinite wisdom show not only the Carpenter Reps but the Laborer Reps how to do it. Bring Goodsir with you I’m sure after you to bag it and tag it they’ll hire you both on staff
Troy Singleton. Was in charge of the funds in the mupp program. Maybe he should be questioned by the fbi Seems funny a few months before the decision he gets a new job and no longer works for the carpenters union. ???????
Sprolles needs to leave now. He is in the processs of changing our pension plan To variable rate plan. Trust me this is bad news for us carpenters depending on our money.
FBI. YOUR UP WHERES THE MONEY. !!!!!
Is that new career of his connected to Norcross?
Get ass clown billy sprolles out . No good for our future
Dark day for the brotherhood. UBC members suing so they DON’T have to do picket lines. 30 year members what a disgrace
No that’s not how it is you council hack are posting on from your “shut your mouth” here’s a iPad door gift
This morning just got an email from Eastern Atlantic States Regional Council of Carpenters. They sent the NRLB NOTICE instead of burying in the back of a website like last time claiming they could still collect it was a wording stipulation and that was spoken by Joe Elmo when asked
Dark days when you scumbags Delegates and trustees go along with everything thing the council says. POS
It was 2 picket lines a year. Meaning 363 of the rest of your days you would not have to picket. How dare the union want their members to get politically active. The nerve of these union officials LOL. All the “we are everywhere” or “we always find waldo” or whatever you guys call yourselves, look in the mirror. We all know who you are.
👆 this guy right here knows what he’s talkin about
Your post ...which is your opinion... And being charitable in judgement of another member.
Clear indicates 2 things:
1. You have no idea what the complaint was about.
Or 2... You are completely oblivious as to the rationale behind the complaint.
The basic beginning premise was the fact that this type of implementation violates the united states constitution 1st amendment. Period.
The complaint had ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with " not wanting to pickett" and EVERYTHING TO DO with " you will pickett or else" .
Every person involved with this complaint is a die hard union member. Adhering to the VERY TENETS set forth by our OWN mission statement... Our own charters.
Do you not see that?
Standing for our beliefs.
It is illegal to coerce someone to do anything that may violate their beliefs.
Read the suit.
Read all the " we will not".
Those are items that the LEADERSHIP WAS doing!!!
You can argue... The ruling is all i need to point to.
You have no vote.
You have no voice.
You have very little representation
You have no work rules.
You have no stewards to protect the men.
So. When your leadership says... Pickett or show up or else..
Fining members... Putting monies into an UNACCOUNTABLE fund... Being used for god knows what..
No. This is not acceptable.
Perhaps if the people who hostilely took over phila were honest and informative from day 1... This may have never occured.. Yet if you can honestly tell me... You were thoroughly informed and invited to be a part of the membership.. If you can honestly say that... Then i know you are lying.
This leadership has lied overtly, over and over and lied by omission.
This is only the beginning.
They built this. Crooked.
We are carpenters. We are going to straighten it out.
“Dark day”” ????? You must be a suck ass. Nobody ever on this site EVER said anything about not freely doing a picket line fool. They UBC can’t force a member to do one. KNOW YOUR RIGHTS ball licker
You are out of your league here champ.
Most posting about this were directly jnvolved and fully understand the process and the discovery along the way.
Its " only 2"
Next month. " its only 4" ..
6 oclock starts... Without premium time... Ohh its all in council .. No need for a per diem... Awww cmon guys... Its only 10 cents ( that you didnt vote for)
Geeee. Its only a small contribution to PECS ( which you didnt vote for) ..
I guess you are the new " union"
The " contractor friendly " billy sproules " go getter" ...
You do not even realize how " non union" your posts are.
A union fights injustice and unjust acts against the worker... Every where.
In this case it happened to be one of many put forth by the leadership we currently have in place.
Its not about how many picketts.
It is alllllll about being coerced, extorted, punished and threatened by your own organization.
Why don’t you put all the fund employees on a line.
You borrowed this MUP program from NYC, before that there was no strength on the line. Then you let Bobby Satriano stick it to 253 membership. Last great campaign flop you dummies did was try to raid the Tapers yeah that worked
Billy pour yourself another one
Council does Dick you punish the membership and reward yourselves.
BTW who one the pick up truck are you going to post that in a email or keep it a secret because you know already how it looks
You thought you punished Lopez you just gave him a pay day you dumb Phuk
Yes it’s true both sides are useless Philly and Jersey dirtbags and coryell left so his deadbeat son can wear a horse costume at an Aldi demo and ride off into the sunset
Billy go drive your Pantera into a telephone pole
You know who tells more secrets than Billy when you get him drunk......
Yes the Mupp program was the dummest thing I have ever seen implemented in my 22 years in the UBC. The jersey leadership has handicapped philadelphia for years to come. Look at the retarts they hired to be reps. Atleast hocker and hand learned under coryell sr. Who was the best labor leader this union has ever seen. All the reprasentatives under them have no business collecting a check. We are always watching. From close and afar. By boat and by car.
100 % troy did his task.
I just wanted to point something out here.
John Ballantyne was in charge of New Jersey when they illegally " voted" on rule 22.
The mups.
Ronnie McLeod slipped that into 158s by laws.
It must now be stricken.
Where is the special meeting and the discussion of why we are removing rule 22?
It needs to be put out to the members.
158 leadership needs to explain why they adopted a rule that was " illegal"...
Mike Hand. You knew it was being contested.
You also, along with Dan Christie ... Assured the lap dogs ( delegates) that roy deserved no representation and ubc would win all the charges.
This needs to be a point of order.
Full disclosure.
Also. Pro tip for you.
When Heineman is representing you... Or any attorney for that matter... It helps if you dont lie to your own counsel.
Its bad enough we the members have to pay for YOUR representation in a case that YOU were screwing members over on our dime.
Next case coming up. Do me a favor. Dont waste time. Get to the truth... Its cheaper, and i spend less time researching and helping respond to heineman and quinn.
You were all warned.
Numerous times.
Sproulles with his " labor law for dummies " books... Proved the title is accurate.
Its hard for me to tell who you are.... All you sheep look the same.
stroles please stop posting there is no one else in this union that thinks your right. Doug give us a break and cut this idiot loose its not gonna get better with him in charge
A big shout out to Robnaughton !
Daniel Christie is a Democrat politician of Gloucester county NJ feel free to go to the county Don’t forget to tell them how he behaves and how we struggle with no voting voice!
Here reach out to his peers......Daniel Christie please take a moment to CYA
Gloucester County
Contact Us
Gloucester County Administration Building
2 South Broad Street
PO Box 337
Woodbury, NJ 08096
Phone: 856-853-3200
I’m sure you were appointed and not voted in. You do the membership so well.
Jersey absolutely killed this union. Here in Philadelphia we were the bigest strongest and most funded in the UBC. They come take our money, then they hire council reps whose daddys were former business agents. Atleast GUY is on speeddial whenever an issue comes up right Ronald? We are watching. We know what you did. We have records. We see you. Maybe 10 years from now we can start hiring qualified reps.
The council was forced into the MUP measures, they had to man the picket lines, all of these members that want to just take take take are destroying the brotherhood, you want picketing to be volunteer then volunteer for it. It’s a shame to see fellow UBC members celebrate what amounts to the end of picketing, we are are own worst enemy!
My freind the council was turned upside down with a 100 years of history dissolved with taking our locals. The unions problems are self induced. Maybe if members still had. Pride in their locals you wouldn’t have to bribe them with pickup trucks. All problems come from dougs takeover open your eyes. !!!!!
Well now there forced out of the mupp program lol
1). The council in NJ and NY was forced into making picketing and other activities mandatory because the members stopped supporting the corrupt leadership who refused to represent anyone but them selves!!!
2) In Philadelphia we participated in the support of our local Union’s because we had a vested interest in our Union.
3) The only enemy we have is Doug McCarron and his criminal associates who steal our money to enrich themselves.
4). This Union was founded on collective bargaining ratified by the individual members vis a secret ballot vote, nothing about our Union today is conducted by the members for the members!!
5) We working members pay the dues but we can’t select our representatives or hold them accountable because we can’t vote them out.
6). The same people who run our Union without the consent of the members, spend hundreds thousands of dollars per year on food, lodging, and playing golf!! 99% of the expenditures listed in the LM2 are in interest of the members, they are not related to representing us per our agreements or related to collective bargaining.
7). When members could elect their own representatives, up until 1990, with the election of Doug McCarron, this Union was much better off in membership and market share. The only thing Doug and his associates have done successfully is to manage our demise while getting rich from our Labor!!
Prepare your self for more change, it’s coming!!!
Again. You missed the point.
No one is against picketting.
Quite honestly... Most of the members filing have probably spent more times on pickett lines than you have in the union.
Lines on the way home.
Lines before work.
Lines when laid off.
I know many of these members. Stood many a line and action.
Whenever. Wherever needed.
Picketting is important.
Picketting for the sake of picketting is bogus.
Paying someone to stand your line ? Defeats the purpose.
Getting credit for setting up chairs... Donating can goods.
A joke.
Being FINED BY ANYONE using your livlihood as leverage???
Yeahh. Okk. You tell me again how " union" you are!!!
That FLYS IN THE FACE OF EVERYTHING A UNION STANDS FOR.
You are clueless and actually the big problem with our union. It is not 1980 anymore. That is not how you get people to volunteer in 2021. Great job Roy. At least someone had the guts not to be threatened and bullied by these bonehead leaders. And a big shout out to the members that take pride in their work and do an excellent job. Thanks to you in 2021 and in the future we will continue to earn our money and get more work.
Missing quite a few post......
No the Council and their Cronies are the worst enemies
Missing posts???Really which ones??
To much of a delay when you post here and somethings don’t get posted (and it’s not vulgar) so I’m kinda confused
bet 1342/253 guys miss their kick backs from pin ceremony at Nanina’s in the park.
To much of a delay .Then piss off and go elsewhere.Also you do not post here I do. I am sure what you meant was "comment"..Enlighten me as to which of your comments did not get posted. If you are referring to comments left by some UBC council troll and suck pump trying to waste my time and bait people do me a favor. Please ask the assholes to send somebody with an IQ.You are not it dumb shit.
Phila carpenter Facebook named changed again. What’s a matter guys to many reps telling members to pay cash. Lol we got all the screen shots guys. But nice try.
Guys let’s it waist time bickering with TOOLS. No worth the time and space on this page. They have enough reading or information on this site. Let them do their own research ya lazy sacks a chit 🖕🏻
When is the special meeting to announce the removal of " rule 22" and other issues.
This MUST HAPPEN BY BYLAW!!
you can not have " bylaw chargeable" offenses in your bylaws if they have been struck down by a federal agency. !!!
Romeo. You know this.
I want mike hand and ron mcleod to get up and explain how they are going to remedy this and admit they were no more than sock puppets.
There are more " complaints" coming.
These are not " settled" out of court. These are criminal conspiracy charges that fall under RICO.
Time ta get right with jesus boys.
JHOCKER aren’t you going to post the NLRB rulings on local 158 website to keep the members informed? Where is the transparency? The old editor posted the Newell NLRB ruling on there. Ronald McLeod told members it didn’t mean anything when he was in charge of the MUPPS
We all know ron mccloud pushed for mupps
So he had something to oversee. Hocker was against the mupps. Remember he came under coryell. Under coryell everyone picketed. There were no issues. No fines. Dan christie came in to enforce this. From what I was told Hocker wanted a reward system to reward members for their time. Since when did the responsibility of a web site fall on a team room lead? All the secretaries and all the made up positions for all the jersey guys and they cannot hire a full time PR guy to run the website and get news out to the members? Pitiful
Romeo could not run a bingo game let a lone a local
Local 158 reprasentatives do a great job in my opinion. What have the reps at the council done bad to the members?
Every member got an email about the ruling, you’re reaching here, EASRCC puts the members first. A bunch of me first guys on here it seems like. Just do your duty and Pickett!!
In your opinion?? How bout we let the members express their support of their opposition for their reps via a secret ballot vote pursuant to an election??? Then we’d all know what the truth.
3 things.
1. You are new and do not even know what representation is.
Or.
2. You are a suck pump so far up someones 3rd point of contact.
Orrrrr
3.you are a relative or a relative of a relative.
Remember. There are 4200 other members in your local.
Mayyyyybeeee 50 of them are represented.
Cool huh.
Dan Christie is a joke call him out I bet you’ll see a wet spot
The responsibility fell on your dear team leader when he declared he was the moderator of said page.
JR. Was soooo dedicated his convictions... Right up until the point they told him to shut up and reminded him he is an at will employee.
Rather than take a stand. Lose his cush job ... Wellll. You know the rest.
If he had to put tools back on... Yeahhh. We ( many have seen that act)
Duty this skippy....
here's an idea. how about the union take some money from the thousands of dollars collected from all members and non members and use that to run the union maybe a few less hotel nights or golf outings or bartabs its a shame you guys could not figure this out on your own you needed the feds to tell you. hey why were at it tell the members how you are in the process of screwing tem on their retirement. strolled
You will find... If researched..the posters saying " duty" and " its only 2" or " dark days" are overwhelmingly former 1050 members.
Ill guarentee it.
Coincidentally.... That is overwhelmingly your asst est, pres of 158, and most of the board. Except for the former 122 opportunist thomas dougherty who affixed his name to the 158 extortion letters.
Eas " for the members"?
Which members?
The appointed delegates?
If they think that " election" was legit... Or any election...well, there lies one of the biggest issues creating the us vs them sentiment.
Note. It is the " us" that pays them.
Half truths from a guys who don’t know the work!
Suck pump because I call it like it is? Actually MR 3 things, they represent all 4200. But there are 4000 that dont care about the union dont want to do picket lines, dont even know what a union meeting is. Its just not screw the contractor day everyday like it was before.
He wasnt hired as a graphic designer smarty jones. Instead if opening up a website for union news how about you go to a meeting once in a while. Virtual for now but hey just sit here and complain about a webpage. That exactly what i want my union representation doing, making web pages all day long.
Union meetings? What a waste of time. I have a lot better things to do than to listen to Dumb and Dumber and their crew lie to the members. I don't need them to give me jobs. They are a joke.
The MRC never had participation problems, the contractors AND the members were both treated equally, and most members did not work for cash, our benefit funds collected all the money owed to our members, none of this can be said of NJ, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, or DC!! The MRC was respected by both members and contractors, no one respected Doug McCarron and his fake carpenters Union anywhere.
No one respects the EAS or leadership because everyone knows what they are about; get rich and live good off the backs of the members. The expenditures in the LM-2 are obscene in scope and cost.
No MRC members wanted to be a part of this NJ fake Union for every reason mentioned above but above all else because we didn’t want our Pension fund merged with NJ. Do we the working members get a say in that???? No we don’t, the detached Union employees who are pretending to be our trustees will approve that decision without our consent because they are told to do it or be fired.
No vote, no representation, the collection of money from our wages without approval, the devaluation of our pension funds, etc., etc., So no you won’t see me being forced to do things for an orginization that doesn’t support me!!
Lm/2. Say otherwise !
Pssst. A virtual meeting is a moot point.
Nothing that is decided in those meetings is valid.
Why?
Because the meeting can not be secured.
Know thy constitution and Roberts Rules.
Heres the bottom line.
You can distract. Redirect. Whatever you want.
Heres a fact.
The EAS was implementing a tactic and program that was struck down by a federal agency because it was illegal.
Period.
Argue all you frigging want.
The fact and result is the same.
It was KNOWN to be illegal.
It was ruled to be illegal
There is a federal cease and desist issued.
Those are all facts.
The representatives .... Did not once question it.
They represent correct?
Never once did they question it or try to stop it which would be in the members best interest.
Those are facts.
I forgot you were involved/briefed on every conversation every rep had so that is how you know that none of them spoke up. I should have known that sorry. But as for now as apposed to MRC days, the representation has remained the same. I cannot speak for all locals but in my local there has been no dropoff. Just more complaining from members who arent happy that they arent being given jobs for not participating in any VOC activities or getting involved period. Not happy with the delegates? Throw your name in the hat. Run. Thats the only way to make a real difference.
How about the spin when the former great local 8 lost the convention center? The members werent lied to then right?
How bout when that convention center law suit was won 2 years later. You forgot that part.
Your premise of " losing the center" which was because of political forces beyond anyones control... Ohh wait. It was at Spencers nod ... And Norcross request... But i digress. Political forces beyond control ... Is akin to saying mike hand lost PES. And the millions of manhours GONE.
Both actions beyond anyones control.
Seems to me.
This thread was dealing with facts.
The fact being that NRCC/KML/EAS.. engaged in extortion and coercion of their membership for an unaccountable slush fund.
Anything you bring to the table outside of that is horseshit.
A diversion.
Read the settlement.
Its not a rumor.
Its not an opinion rooted in sentiment... But codified federal law.
Allll your other input is just crap.
Learn to deal in facts.
Not opinion. Rumor. Bias.
First of all there was no spin we were locked out. No one lied to the members about what was happening other than Frank Spencer who said he had nothing to do with the lock out, all the while he worked with George Norcross and Johnny Doc to cause his own members to he thrown out.
Who lied to members and stole thousands of dollars from them vis the MUP program??? Why none other than the EAS managers. Who created the provisional carpenter program? Yep you already know the answer, the EAS managers. Who miss-spends out hard earned dues money on them selves on trips, at restaurants, etc.???
Whose going to win the right to make paying dues optional?? This member!!!
UNION STRONG
Hey Mafioso Face Jamie Seratella local 253 president you going to make the meeting or will you be working on your spaghetti. Heard nail salons are open in Jersey bring Ray!
POS!!!
Sounds like this person is from 1050. To say there has been no drop off only means one thing, they are Mike Hand step and fetch clowns that will do whatever they tell them to. Sell out for a hand out. Our members deserve better. We had better. No more!
Philly it’s up to you because all of Jersey will do whatever they are told. They are motivated and in search of getting to the next level in the organization.
What’s it like looking at Sproule in your office
Just look how ballantyne was a tool and took it all away. You need to show the courts what Spencer is about we all see it here it needs to be seen by courts
Does anyone know if NYC is still trying extort their members through their MUP program?
Where in Local 158 bylaws is there anything about Mupps? Section 22 is the contingent fund. Nothing about Mupps
You mis read that.
Rule 22. Was the nrcc council by law.
That was the mups.
Rule 22 of the nrcc.
Which was adopted by kml.
Then eas.
Its a council bylaw.
It is not section 22.
Every mup letter you recieved clearly stated the by law number rule 22 of the nrcc.
Go look.
My question was.... Will that be removed from our most current council ( which seems to change yearly)?
The issue should be addressed at the local level ie. 158.
It should be brought up. Explained. Verdict read. Then motion to remove it or anything pertaining to it.
Delegates made aware.
That mups rule can not exist in our bylaws ANYWHERE.
But since we no longer vote and the " delegates" " take care of that" they need to be made aware and motion to remove it.
Yeah Delegates they care
So the Mupp rules from NRCC council were already in place long before Local 158 existed. No delegates from Local 158 ever voted on any of the NRCC bylaws. They were in place years before.No delegate from Local 158 voted for them or snuck them in.
It’s funny how it all works and it’s funnier that Capelli kid is a Rep did he even do a apprenticeship did he do anything before or after being a steward on a Bamco job? Fact Bamco has guys with union cards they don’t get the rate Bamco picks up their dues amongst other financials.
BABY CAPPELLI YOU ARE A JOKE
What’s not a joke is that this turd gets paid over a $160 grand a year by us in exchange fir nothing.
Could you mr .delegate. Please advise us if you voted for the map assements ?
Wow he gets more than the reps that got let go 😂
Did any one delegate from 158 spoke against the MUPP at a council meeting? Or did the free giveaways and refreshments they talk about in their election mailing sway them to keep their mouths shut. While we’re at it how about the MAP money out of members checks? Same question. Just imagine if Roy had the same amount of money rolling in that the leadership has from all the dues members pay....how much great honest change could take place for the hardworking members.
Thank you Roy!
Guarantee if you audit Bamco you will find a lot
I know who I get my jobs from and at least they give us something for free so the slate got my vote. Give Hand and Hocker a break they have families too. If you went to the union meetings and help put chairs away you would get jobs also. You are an idiot if you are signing up for that Mix 20/20. Just vote for the slate and you will get all your jobs from the hall first. Stop complaining like a Scab about the MUP program, for 150 cash you could have gotten out of it you dopes and its only 2 a year. Talk negative about my guys at the hall and good luck to you and your family.
The reps that got let go were worthless turds too. If they could represent themselves they would have sued and made a fortune. The only problem is they would have to prove that they did their jobs of representing the members and they didn't so they have no case.
You missed about 5 critical facts. You are getting close.
You have completely watered down the time line and how " what" got where" .
2 key points.
After the " initial takeover" and it was a takeover...not a merger... Phila was still under contract to fulfill the balance of the mrc contract.
Mups was not part of that.
This is the timeframe when a ton of illegal crap was happening.
Its pretty involved so ill write about it when i get more time.
Although. If you go into the archives of this site for the last 4 years it was clearly laid out.
Look at another " kid" who is on the ubc payroll via groundwork strategies and .... Trish Mueller.
Certainly there are a lot of unethical activities.
The carpenter rank and file deserve an investigation to rule out illegal activities.
The UBC leadership and attorneys work feverishly to avoid federal court. They rush to " settle" as they did in the mups.
They know full well that a federal trial, under oath, with full discovery takes " unethical actions" and exposes criminal activity.
Meanwhile. You. The member contribute to the legal defense.
Time and time again they avoid court.
Until they are dragged in under oath with the potential for indictment... Nothing will change.. And you will keep paying the tab as the fruit of their " unethical" acts makes them wealthy while your position gets weaker and weaker.
Take a look at the Post Brothers job.
A mixed work force.
The non union wear no harnesses or have any safety rails in place.
The pressure is mounting for the union members to work the same way.
Its all fun and games till someone dies.
Then it will be. " we had safety measures" etc...
Men are being leveraged to work stupidly or lose their jobs because they wont work at height without protection.
Tell me. Allll those years of fall protection and safety... All out the window because post brothers wants it that way.
Contractor Friendly.
Lets see how friendly they are to the widows and children.
" talk negative about my guys at the hall and good luck to you and your family"
Is this post for real?
Hey champ.
You just implicated you and your buds in breach of by laws.
You do get that dont you?
The eas / ubc is NOT a hiring hall. Quite clearly they state this for federal tax purposes and to maintain " not for profit " status. You do understand this correct?
So in essence you are clearly proving that the mix 20/20..,which was put into place to satisfy federal regs and requirements to maintain status and satisfy IRS law ...you are clearly stating that violations of this are still occurring.?
They are not afraid of the law they have all the resources
Don’t forget Ballantyne and Lopez are they going to help....nope
Mup ruling how does that get passed on to NYC I understand they are a stand alone council Mup was discovered (then brought throughout the UBC)when Ballantyne was sent as a hatchet man.
The only thing that needs to be done is A charge filed with the nlrb The blog administrator can help you with the process. They will look at the ruling in phila. And make nyc. Do the same thing. It’s not just against the federal law in eastern district. But the nllrb will make someone to balls up and file charges in nyc. Trust me when I tell you when you file the charge you will be covered under a whistle blower law That’s all that needs to be done. Let them try an come after you. Whistle blower lawsuit And they know it. That goes for you New England council. If your that worried get a retire. To file the charge Help the future of the brotherhood out. Because they won’t until they are forced from the Feds
Hey all you members that worked during the snow Be aware that sprolles worked from home if you can call that work. But keep giving the dues up to these worthlesss. Losers !!!!!
If any member of the NYC Council is told they have to comply with any mandatory participation program all they have to do is say no, don’t participate, abs if needed refer to the recent NLRB settlement notice.
Any member should also request that any such program be removed from all local Union and Council Bylaws.
One of the arguements at settlement was EXACTLY this point.
The plaintiff wanted it to be a national edict.
That meant it didnt affect alll the other union trades that do this as well.
It was isolated to eas.
All the work is done. The precedent set.
File from your council or other trade.
Cite this case.
You will have wb status as was stated.
The path is easier now.
Post your union as your employer.
Remember. Retaliation even if it is PERCEIVED by you is dealt with quickly. Your reps and officers do not want to be on that federal dockett.
Post his address
Thank you for your thoroughness
Probably reading law books he should represent the council then we can say their is a more pathetic lawyer then Kroll and Heineman
Post his address so we can do a reality show on UNION GREED
To the guy who knows what Billy does and doesn’t do since you know so much, post his address anybody else agree
Why so you can go give him a handjob. For the great leadership he brings. Oh we know you know where he lives !!!!!!
Whats the leadership hiarchy going to look like with Hand and Breslin retiring More Jersey leaders i guess
No leaders they will get booted out when an outside agency takes over
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